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c350z
17th December 2009, 12:19 PM
Im looking for plans for stitch and tape canoe that will take an outboard motor, just so I can have the option open in future. I would prefer to purchase in Australia. Have not been able to find plans for such a boat from an Australian just yet, can anyone here recomend someone ?

Id like to build it over xmas.

Here is the perfect example

12'6" OUTBOARD MOTOR CANOE

Motor Canoes (http://www.selway-fisher.com/Mcanoe.htm)

Thank :2tsup:

Daddles
17th December 2009, 05:22 PM
For what it's worth mate, you won't go wrong with Selway Fisher.

I don't know why you're specifiying a canoe, so will assume that it's to make it more portable, in which case, you might find something that works (if not a canoe) on David Payne's (http://www.payneyachts.com/) site or at Duck Flats. (http://www.duckflatwoodenboats.com/)

Don't get hung up on stitch and tape either, for something like the Selway Fisher canoes, it's probably the right method but don't overlook something suitable simply because of a different construction method - the hull is physically big but not a huge part of the overall project and many 'savings' in time don't really mean much in the amateur world.

Richard

c350z
17th December 2009, 07:41 PM
Gday Richard thanks for those will have a good look through them :2tsup:

Yeh the idea of the canoe is size foremost and also portability. Id like to tow it on mountain bike, and alot of the waters it will see will be on the narrow side, creeks, ect.

Re construction I dont know alot about it as I have never built one before, but the draw with the stitch and tape for me is its a "beginner" method, sounds like a good place to start, but also it seems like a cool technique im really interested in learning how to do it.

Daddles
17th December 2009, 08:19 PM
Gday Richard thanks for those will have a good look through them :2tsup:

Yeh the idea of the canoe is size foremost and also portability. Id like to tow it on mountain bike, and alot of the waters it will see will be on the narrow side, creeks, ect.

Re construction I dont know alot about it as I have never built one before, but the draw with the stitch and tape for me is its a "beginner" method, sounds like a good place to start, but also it seems like a cool technique im really interested in learning how to do it.

If you're looking at towing behind a treddly, the canoe is the way to go. But why a motor?

As for the 'beginner' status of stitch and poo, that's bulldust. It's got that reputation because it made a good sales pitch and a lot of people jumped on the bandwagon (like fibreglass boats because they last forever and don't need maintenance ... yeah ... right).

Stitch and glue has its place, but so do the other methods. Choose the design to do the job and go with whatever build method the designer deems to do the job (which in a canoe, probably will be stitch and glue).

Richard

c350z
18th December 2009, 06:09 PM
Well thinking about it I dont know im a bit indicisive now im starting to reconsider. The idea of the motor is for added versatility, but the downside is the weight ofcourse both in transport and paddling.

Mark Bowdidge
18th December 2009, 07:23 PM
G'dy C350z,
Maybe you could talk to Boatmik (Mike) about using one of his canoe designs and adapting to suit. I'm sure he'll help out and also, being an Australian, will make it easy to contact him for any help along the way:2tsup:
regards
Mark

Boatmik
19th December 2009, 10:59 AM
Howdy,
Thanks for that Mark!

Actually Duckflat does have one motor canoe design available. Not one of mine, but it is long and lean.

Paddling can be a very effective way of getting places with very little hassle (and nothing heavy to carry) so you need to be really sure that you really don't want to paddle the boat to choose a motor oriented canoe.

Motor canoes are pretty bad at paddling. Better than a tinnie, but you won't be going anywhere easily and quickly.

What a couple of people have done if they want BOTH an outboard and to paddle is to build an outrigger on one side and attach a small outboard on the back of the rear crossbeam.

You have a nice paddling hullshape and you can just fit the outrigger when you actually need it. All the bits are light.

Down in my subforum you will see a lot of references to the Eureka.

Best wishes
Michael

c350z
20th December 2009, 12:04 PM
Thanks for that very handy to know :2tsup:

Look in that case I will just choose a traditional canoe design and forget about the hybrid, might look at building something powered at a later time.