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Rhys_holland
15th May 2010, 05:47 PM
my lathe came with a set of chisels which have done me up until now, this weekend i bought a p&N bowl gouge:) and the difference was absolutly amazing the timber cut with the greatest of eze and the sharpning on the grinder was soo much easyer so my questions are
What brand does everybody use
and what brand do people prefer to use

artme
15th May 2010, 08:48 PM
You can't go wrong with P&N!! They are, IMHO< the best value tools on the market. Not advertised heavily
, but those who use them always sing their praises.

I like the Henry Taylor tools, the bowl gouge in particular.

HAmlet also make fine tools and I have a number of them.

China
15th May 2010, 09:55 PM
Yep I agree P&N most of my turning chisels are P&N, however they are becoming harder and harder to find in SA, every time you want one one you have to wait two weeks for it. I was at Woodfast the other day for a different purchase and decided to give their chisels a go, I purchased 1/2"spindle gouge I have only used it on one small job it seems to be very good value for money. Came with a handle and steel is polished, all it need was a few strokes with a stone and it was ready to go, P&N may have to make their chisels more available if they want to stay in the market.

Rhys_holland
15th May 2010, 11:04 PM
thanks for the update its nice to know i made the right desision then

rsser
16th May 2010, 09:20 AM
P&N are slack about polishing the milling marks out of their gouge flutes so this is the first job to do if you want the cleanest cut.

orraloon
16th May 2010, 12:13 PM
My tools are a mixed bag. I have a P&N scraper and it is very good. Hamlet are also good. I have 4 skews and a parting tool marked Yellow Edge ESS that came with my first lathe and they work ok or as good as my skew skills allow. I use the small parting tool a lot. I have 2 hollowers made by Bruce Leadbetter, A set of 6 cheep Chinese tools I got when starting out and still find uses for, 2 home made scrapers and a couple from Mcjing.
I buy a good tool every now and then but so far I have kept the cheep one it was meant to replace.
Regards
John

NeilS
16th May 2010, 03:27 PM
P&N may have to make their chisels more available if they want to stay in the market.

https://carrolls.sitesuite.net.au/shop/category/7729
Trend Timbers » P&N Woodturning Tools (http://www.trendtimbers.com.au/index.php?id=84)
Browse - The Wood Works Book &amp; Tool Co. (http://www.thewoodworks.com.au/shop?page=shop.browse)
http://jpmark.com.au/cutting-tools-and-files/uploadedFiles/1131489644984-1255.pdf



P&N are slack about polishing the milling marks out of their gouge flutes so this is the first job to do if you want the cleanest cut.

If you don't have a suitably sized slipstone or honing wheel, some abrasive wrapped around some suitably sized doweling will do the job.

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rsser
16th May 2010, 03:41 PM
If you don't have a suitably sized slipstone or honing wheel, some abrasive wrapped around some suitably sized doweling will do the job. .....

Yes, start at 80g!

Here's (http://www.carbatec.com.au/carba-tec-sharpening-sticks_c20469) another option. Will measure the rod if there's any interest. They're alox from memory.

I've tried waterstone slipstones; they're pretty soft and lose shape fairly fast.

Sawdust Maker
16th May 2010, 10:17 PM
Vermec sell the P&N unhandled and are happy to post
link here (http://www.vermec.com/id26.html)

This chap (http://www.thompsonlathetools.com/)makes nice tools, unfortunately not cheap and in another country

Me I've mainly got the P&N, have some Sorby which I got unhandled but MIK doesn't trade anymore. Also have a couple of the Thompson which I managed to sneak in past the Guardian of the Exchequer during a forum group purchase. I got a couple of generics from toolco to grind into odd shapes - I'll have to rehandle them at some stage as I dislike the handles

burl
16th May 2010, 10:53 PM
Pops Shed also carry P & N Tools

pommyphil
17th May 2010, 08:54 AM
Hare & Forbes sell P&N

Texian
17th May 2010, 03:35 PM
This chap (http://www.thompsonlathetools.com/)makes nice tools, unfortunately not cheap and in another country

Doug's tools are widely regarded here as the best available, and are good value per $ in the U.S., but probably would be a bit pricey by the time they arrive there.

rsser
17th May 2010, 03:47 PM
We did a forum bulk buy a while ago Richard. $2000 worth. Doug very kindly covered the shipping and an anonymous US forum benefactor even more kindly chipped in $5 per tool to help with the exchange rate difference.

Great tools for our hard or abrasive timbers.

Texian
17th May 2010, 03:55 PM
Thought I remembered that bulk buy but forgot that it was for Doug's tools.

It's 11:54 pm Sunday here, now. What time is it there?

rsser
17th May 2010, 04:07 PM
Monday 3:07 pm.

Edit: May 17

As for value, yes, over your way I would've thought they'd be a steal!

I never did a local comparo since I wasn't, and am not, aware of any equiv. tools with 10% Vanadium in the alloy.

Texian
17th May 2010, 04:29 PM
Thanks Ern. Guess you're about 15 hours ahead of me (I think much of the world is years ahead of me). Had it figured at 17 hours.

China
17th May 2010, 10:48 PM
Just to answer those above mentioning all the places to buy P&N there are several places in SA that sell them, that is a very diferent story to stocking them. I was told by P&N that Gasweld/Flintware stock them Gasweld/Flintware told me they are no longer produced. I have tried other outlets and been told we will have to order them 2-3weeks.

NeilS
18th May 2010, 12:25 AM
... there are several places in SA that sell them, that is a very different story to stocking them.

Yeah, well, that applies to all the suppliers I deal with, everywhere.

On the Thompson gouges, they are still good value for money even at the current AU/US exchange rate. Probably not the next tool to buy after a set of el cheapos, but a worthy contender if you are looking for some serious gouges.

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robo hippy
18th May 2010, 02:55 AM
I am another supporter of Doug Thompson tools. You are buying directly from the guy who makes them, so for the money and quality, they are cheap. They are my go to tools for all the turning I do.

robo hippy

colhu
18th May 2010, 10:29 PM
Hi guys

I have a couple of tools (bowl gouge and spindle gouge) from Gorgi Armen of Harbord in Sydney who trades as Hycut tools. In my judgment they are as good as the P&Ns that I have, and they were a bit cheaper. When I bought mine in about 2003 he was importing the steel and having them manufactured here.

Gorgi is a member of Northern Beaches Woodturners. He doesn't seem to have a website. At one stage he was tied up with Trend Timbers, demonstrating at the Sydney WWW show. I don't know if he is still in the business.

cheers, Colin

munruben
18th May 2010, 10:57 PM
I have a Hamlet gouge, Bowl gouge, Spindle gouge, Skew and scraper. Also have a 3/8 spindle gouge I bought from McJing at last years working with wood show here in Brisbane which is good value for money/ Also have a few "no name" tools that I started off with which has served me well. Got a nice hollowing out tool too with the compliments of wheelinround.