Brrrrr!

[Landseka]

I thought my shed was cold in winter!

I sure am glad I don't have to move the cars out of here and work in this garage. :eek:

Makes my shed seem positively tropical.

Regards

Neil.

[echnidna]

Didn't realise W.A. had brass monkey winters. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[rev]

Amazing how everything but the roller door and its mechanism got frozen! :rolleyes: Some digital jokers? Maybe a major plumbing failure upstairs?

[ryanarcher]

Looks like a Fire sprinkler malfunction to me. Probably a dry system that charged inadvertantly.

[Landseka]

There certainly seems to have been a massive ingress of water somehow. It may have come from an upper area as it looks like ceiling insulation has collapsed at the rear left, and maybe right across the roof.

Whatever the reason for the moisture it looks dam cold there.

Regards

Neil.

[ryanarcher]

Didn't realise W.A. had brass monkey winters. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D


A fun fact just because i've got a little time. This is where the phrase "cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey" comes from. Canonballs used to be stacked inside a square metal railing (in a pyramid) called a "monkey". At first they were made of iron, but they found that in the winter the balls would freeze to the monkey, and couldn't be removed. So, they started to make the "monkeys" out of brass. However in bittercold weather the iron balls and the brass monkey would contract at different rates and the balls would spill over the top. hence "cold enought to spill the balls off a brass monkey"

Before I learned this I was certin that there was a brass statue somewhere of a monkey that was missing it's 'nads.

now, I'll be dissapointed if this post isn't a catylist for at least 10 jokes.

[HappyHammer]

Thanks Ryan at least I learned one thing today....

HH.

[ryanarcher]

However in bittercold weather the iron balls and the brass monkey would contract at different rates .

In bitter cold my iron balls and brass monkey contract a different rates too. :rolleyes:

sorry, couldn't help starting it off. :o

[HappyHammer]

In bitter cold my iron balls and brass monkey contract a different rates too. :rolleyes:

sorry, couldn't help starting it off. :o
I've been told spanking the monkey can cure this.:D

HH.

[Pete J]

Brass Monkey

"Askoxford" has a different view.

The story goes that cannonballs used to be stored aboard ship in piles, on a brass frame or tray called a 'monkey'. In very cold weather the brass would contract, spilling the cannonballs: hence very cold weather is 'cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey'. There are several problems with this story. The first is that the term 'monkey' is not otherwise recorded as the name for such an object. The second is that the rate of contraction of brass in cold temperatures is unlikely to be sufficient to cause the reputed effect. The third is that the phrase is actually first recorded as 'freeze the tail off a brass monkey', which removes any essential connection with balls. It therefore seems most likely that the phrase is simply a ribald allusion to the fact that metal figures will become very cold to the touch in cold weather (and some materials will become brittle).

[simon c]

I'm with you Pete - this is a great story but an Urban Myth.

If you think about it, if cannonballs were piled on little brass racks that would let the cannonballs loose if teh weather got cold then they would be rolling around every time they went through a rough patch of weather.

There's a similar discussion in snopes
http://www.snopes.com/language/stories/brass.htm

[outback]

So where did the one about freeze the tits off a tin lizard come from?

Was a lizard the thing they stored nuclear missiles on back in the 50's ?

[AlexS]

This saying is actually due to a pommy mishearing an old Australian expression, "Cold enough to freeze the walls off a bark humpy"

[Five Thumbs]

Balls etc


Q. Do you know why Policemen have big balls?

A. Because more people buy tickets.

Sorry, it has been a long day

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[Optimark]

As I understand it, somewhere sometime ago, Monkeys were trained to scamper around ships supplying fodder for the cannons.

That is where the terminology did start from and later on in life naval ratings in English ships who did the same job, were referred as powder monkeys.

I'm not exactly sure if this is technically correct, but I'm reasonably sure it's on the right path.

Mick.

[simon c]

monkeys were never used to do any actual labour - but small boys were refered to as monkeys due to the way they scampered about and they did most of these tasks

[HappyHammer]

This saying is actually due to a pommy mishearing an old Australian expression, "Cold enough to freeze the walls off a bark humpy"
I think the shoe is on the other foot there Alex. Since I came to Oz I've heard all sorts of variants to sayings that originate in the UK.:eek: There is also the different version of Hokey Cokey where you say Hokey Pokey:confused: Maybe this version was bought over by someone from Englands north and their strange accent was hard to decipher?

HH.

[Iain]

Sounds like balls to me :D

[simon c]

Maybe this version was bought over by someone from Englands north and their strange accent was hard to decipher?

HH.
HH

That's what I originally thought, but when I looked into the history of some of the phrases, I found that a lot of the phrases that Australia uses were terms that were popular in the UK maybe 100 years ago and have subsequently changed in either or often both countries. It's not so much mishearing, but more related to divergence from a common point over a period of time.

[HappyHammer]

So what did it start as Pokey, Cokey or something completely different?

HH..

[beejay1]

Maybe this version was bought over by someone from Englands north and their strange accent was hard to decipher?HH.[/QUOTE]
Now Ive heard everything!!! An Aussie calling an English accent strange.
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[HappyHammer]

Now Ive heard everything!!! An Aussie calling an English accent strange.
Well ahll go ta foot o t'stairs.http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/images/icons/icon10.gifhttp://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/images/icons/icon10.gif
beejay1

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Not auite BJ more like a Londoner saying that northerners can't speak properly:D :D
HH.

[Iain]

It's interesting to follow the course of the language and spelling eg Queen used to be Quene et al, I transcribe lute tablature into music as we know it now and the lyrics can prove interesting as well as challenging.
One I have now is called Elisa is the fayrest Quene refering to Elizabeth 1.
And listen to Londeners with their 'markits, car..oons' etc.
God it's hard to be perfect here :p

[HappyHammer]

Here are some fine examples of East London vocabulary...

alma chizzit - A request to find the cost of an item.

amant - Quantity; sum total ("Thez a yuge amant of mud in
Saffend").

assband - Unable to leave the house because of illness,
disability etc.

awss - A four legged animal, on which money is won, or more
likely lost
("That awss ya tipped cost me a fiver t'day").

branna - More brown than on a previous occasion ("Ere, Trace,
ya look
branna today, ave you been on sunbed?").

cort a panda - A rather large hamburger.

dan in the maff - Unhappy ("Wossmatta, Trace, ya look a bit dan
in the
maff").

eye-eels - Women's shoes.

Furrock - The location of Lakeside Shopping Centre.

garrij - A building where a car is kept or repaired (Trace:
"Oi, Darren,
I fink the motah needs ta go in the garrij cos it aint Working
proper").



Ibeefa - Balearic holiday island.

Lafarjik - Lacking in energy ("I feel all lafarjik").

oi oi! - Traditional greeting. Often heard from the doorway of
pubs or
during banging dance tunes at clubs

paipa - The Sun, The Mirror or The Sport.

reband - The period of recovery and emotional turmoil after
rejection by
a lover ("I couldn't elp it, I wuz on the reband from Craig").

Saffend - Essex coastal resort boasting the longest pleasure
pier in the
world. The place where the characters from TV's popular soap
opera
Eastenders go on holiday

tan - The city of London, the big smoke.

webbats - Querying the location, something or someone is.
("Webbats is
me dole card Trace? I've gotta sign on).

HH.

[beejay1]

Not auite BJ more like a Londoner saying that northerners can't speak properly:D :D
HH.
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[Iain]

And could you imagine OUR police saying 'ello ello ello, what ave we got ere then'.
My old man got pulled up for speeding in the UK on the way to the airport after a successful business transaction, asked why he was speeding he replied that he was feeling very happy about the way the day had gone and was not paying attention to the speedo, reply from Const Plod as he wrote out a ticket 'well, weel ave to make you a bit unnappy, won't we'.
Dad was not impressed :D

[HappyHammer]

Can't beat a good ruby BJ.

HH.

[beejay1]

And could you imagine OUR police saying 'ello ello ello, what ave we got ere then'.
My old man got pulled up for speeding in the UK on the way to the airport after a successful business transaction, asked why he was speeding he replied that he was feeling very happy about the way the day had gone and was not paying attention to the speedo, reply from Const Plod as he wrote out a ticket 'well, weel ave to make you a bit unnappy, won't we'.
Dad was not impressed :D
Think the same guy got me afew years ago on Feb 1st for speeding, After he wrote out the ticket and handed me back my licence, he smiled and said Thank you sir,,,, and happy birthday.
.....Bastard,,, but it was amusing.
beejay1
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[HappyHammer]

Shouldn't you be tucked up in bed BJ?

HH.

[beejay1]

Shouldn't you be tucked up in bed BJ?

HH.
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[simon c]

So what did it start as Pokey, Cokey or something completely different?

HH..
It started simultaneously during WW2 in the UK as Hokey-Cokey and in the US as Hokey-Pokey.

S

[Iain]

Then the Kiwi's made ice cream out of it :D

[HappyHammer]

It started simultaneously during WW2 in the UK as Hokey-Cokey and in the US as Hokey-Pokey.

S
So it's an example of the US influence on Australia. Thanks Simon I'll be able to close an ongoing debate with SWMBO.:D

HH.