The saga continues.

[RETIRED]

Continuing on from this post of setting up the lathe,

http://www.woodworkforums.com/f8/stuff-happens-146206/ The logs arrived.

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The logs were unloaded and put out the back while I contemplated the job ahead and got the ancillary stuff done. Grumpy assisted in the contemplation and then shook his head muttering encouragement like "You must be stupid etc.".

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The job was to create 2 Corinthian columns from these Japanese Cedar trees.

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As Natasha hasn't got an indexing head fitted I had to make one.

So delving into the archives of my brain to dredge out my geometry lessons from many moons ago, did some calculations and arrived at this.

Corinthian columns have 20 flutes so we needed 360 degrees divided by 20=18 degrees, so 20 divisions at 18 degrees apart.

Out with the trusty protractor, pencil and a rule, we lay it out on a sheet of MDF.

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Next we turned up a locating boss (on the metal lathe) to carry the indexed plate that was glued and screwed to a plywood backing plate.

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That was the first problem solved. We have indexing.

Next problem was that early on Natasha would be spinning too damn quick for something that was going to be totally unbalanced for the duration. We had to leave the base on to be carved later.

A "chicken gear" was called for. Natasha is chain driven from the motor to the input shaft of a Mack (very old) gearbox and then pulleys and belts to the output shaft or spindle. An easy matter of fitting (after machining) a smaller gear fixes the speed problem.

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Onto the next problem. Holding the big sucker in so it can't come out and destroy the workshop.

I have found that a hole drilled in the end and a pin attached to a drive plate to be the best solution so we make one of those.

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Headstock end taken care of, now t'other end.

The timber was green (bearing fruit 2 days prior to delivery) and soft, like butter so any tail stock centre I had was going to bury itself in and be no use.

Contemplate the problem for a day or so and then abuse myself for not thinking of the obvious.

If the timber is too soft, fit something that isn't and will give more support. We screwed a 150mm x 8mm steel disc that had been drilled to take the centre on to the end.

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With all that done, we put the log in.

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We fit tool rests and check everything at least 10 times, start it up and take the first cuts.

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Grumpy John came round later to find out if we had survived and shot this for us.

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To be continued:

[wood hacker]

Man you get to have all the fun. How many cups of tea did that lot take? :U

[Acco]

The logs arrived.

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The logs were unloaded

Nearly salivating here :lbs:but not quite there :cl:, remote crane control, rear mounted but the alloy tray wouldn't take the punishment I dole out :doh:

[smiife]

hi ,
wow,, it must be never a dull moment at your place mate !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
very interesting how you have set it all up ,and it will be interesting
to see how it progresses to the finished product.thanks for posting
what will the finished size be? and where are they to be used?
cheers smiife:2tsup:

[Ruddy]

Marvellous stuff.......
thats not a knife.......
From a distance, it looks like a lot of fun.

[nalmo]

I hope you have measuring tools that are calibrated in "thou's ".

[Cliff Rogers]

Reckon you'll have enough EEE? :think:

The video is impressive. :2tsup:

[dai sensei]

Wow :2tsup: Wish I was there to see it :-

Waiting for the next video instalment :U

[Scott]

I've never stood near anything as big and unbalanced as that whilst rotating, especially with a tool in hand. If I did I think I'd soil my pants. All the best with this one :D

[powderpost]

You are bloody mad. :o :)
Jim

[Acco]

You are bloody mad. :o :)
Jim

We already know that, he has been mad :youcrazy: for years :U

[TTIT]

Love it :2tsup: You'll have to haul Natasha up to Prossy next time :;

[dr4g0nfly]

Tell me some of this is on Video and available on uTube - please!

[Cliff Rogers]

Tell me some of this is on Video and available on uTube - please!
Yup, it was in the first post, download this & play it.
's Big Log2.avi (http://www.woodworkforums.com/attachments/f8/214655d1341478545-saga-continues-robbos-big-log2.avi)

[Sturdee]

Looking forward to the next installment, where some of the Vic wood turners were allowed to have a go at the big log. :U :U


Peter.

[nz_carver]

Man you get to have all the fun. How many cups of tea did that lot take? :U

I like to think with a job that size
that a tea cup is to small

I did Did the numbers and given the size a of the job
And athe size of a cup of tea being around 200ml

I'd say a 40 gallon drum might me best to use as a tea cup:U

[Mulgabill]

Looking forward to the next installment, where some of the Vic wood turners were allowed to have a go at the big log. :U :U


Peter.

You've got to be kidding Peter:o. What sjt said! Don't get me wrong I would love to see it, just not that close:no:

[Sturdee]

You've got to be kidding Peter:o. What sjt said! Don't get me wrong I would love to see it, just not that close:no:

As they say if no photos it didn't happen, so here is a photo of me being guided by on the second log

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and the link to a report on a wonderful day. (http://www.woodworkforums.com/f8/woodturners-day-robbos-149134/)

Under 's expert guidance it wasn't scary at all, just hard work but good fun. :2tsup:


Peter.

[Drillit]

Hello ,
I dont think you are mad...not at all.....just get back on the tablets. I want to see photos of many workers beavering away with the skew - just for practice. John M.

[Allan at Wallan]

Nothing to it ... just "log on" and stand back.:D

Allan

[RETIRED]

I've never stood near anything as big and unbalanced as that whilst rotating, especially with a tool in hand. If I did I think I'd soil my pants. All the best with this one :DCome close myself at times.:D


You are bloody mad. :o :)
JimNot mad just a little insane sometimes.:wink:


Love it :2tsup: You'll have to haul Natasha up to Prossy next time :;If Con pays the freight and supplies a 5 tonne concrete pad, gladly.:cool:

[RETIRED]

You've got to be kidding Peter:o. What sjt said! Don't get me wrong I would love to see it, just not that close:no:As Peter said it is quite safe and like turning small stuff except there is more leverage.

That said I still treat them with a great deal of respect and check , check, check constantly.

[springwater]

Hard not to feel this is gunna be the WIP of the century

[dr4g0nfly]

Thanks Cliff, I missed that entirely.

[tea lady]

Not as hard as the stuff me usually turn. But still don't want it coming out of the lathe. :U Nearly did once. I'm told. No pic, so it prolly didn't happen. But there is a bent chuck in the shelf now. :doh:

[Grumpy John]

I bet wishes he was doing that job now instead of in January and February. It would keep him warmer than what he gets gluing up doors :p.

[tea lady]

I bet wishes he was doing that job now instead of in January and February. It would keep him warmer than what he gets gluing up doors :p.:oo: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Don't mention the doors. :doh: :D

[Grumpy John]

:oo: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Don't mention the doors. :doh: :D

Why, doesn't he like doing doors? :stirthepot:

[Sturdee]

Don't make them, just collect them from the half yearly roadside recycling shop. :U

Peter.

[tea lady]

Why, doesn't he like doing doors? :stirthepot::hmm: Don't think he likes working on wood that sits still. :doh:

[Tim the Timber Turner]

Why, doesn't he like doing doors? :stirthepot:

Cause they are hard to get running true on the lathe??????:?:?:?:?

[cookie48]

Rekon you need a roughing gouge the size of a coal shovel to start that project.

[powderpost]

:oo: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Don't mention the doors. :doh: :D
What doors would that be, and why not????
Jim

[Scott]

What doors would that be

You know that it would be untrue
You know that I would be a liar
If I was to say to you
Girl, we couldn't get much higher

Come on baby, light my fire
Come on baby, light my fire
Try to set the night on fire

:D

[tea lady]

After many months of the pillars sitting round at out joint, they were trucked off for their next stage of work. I did get to help with sanding and finishing of the flutes and the root ball. From which I can conclude that sanding timber that is sitting still is to much like hard work. They were installed on site last week. (I think the pillars themselves have a whitish oil on them and there is no finish on the tops/rootballs. That is why there is so much colour difference. )
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They are at Macleland Gallery, Langwarren. I shall give you all the exhibition details when I know them. (Hope I get an invite to the opening, :cool: )

[TTIT]

They look awesome :2tsup: Top job.

[Grumpy John]

Hmmmmmm, I don't know much about art, but........ I don't like the square base of the root ball sitting on the top of a round column. To me it doesn't flow, it looks disjointed.

[DJ’s Timber]

but........ I don't like the square base of the root ball sitting on the top of a round column. To me it doesn't flow, it looks disjointed.

Same here too GJ

The rootballs look interesting though

[tea lady]

Hmmmmmm, I don't know much about art, but........ I don't like the square base of the root ball sitting on the top of a round column. To me it doesn't flow, it looks disjointed.


Same here too GJ

The rootballs look interesting thoughMy thoughts too. They were being worked on in different places. I guess when they came together it was too late. :doh: I wondered if it was just the colour difference. :shrug:

[Grumpy John]

Hey, maybe I do know something about art :p.

[tea lady]

We will have to take a trip and go and see them in the flesh. So to speak.:cool:

[TTIT]

I'll put the cat amongst the pigeons here and disagree with GJ and co. :o. I would have done the same thing because that style of column just wouldn't look right if it was capped with anything but a rectangular step and if it was capped with a round step, it would be just an upside down tree, round blurring in to more round, not an abstractly organic hairstyle gone wrong emerging from an architectural refined pedestal . . . . so there! :p

[tea lady]

I do like the square bit. Just not sure is the scale of the two pieces work. Kinda makes our enormous pillars look tiny. :C:U But I will reserve my judgement till I see it in reality.

[dr4g0nfly]

Hey, maybe I do know something about art :p.

What is Art, that is in the eye of the Beer-Holder!

[NeilS]

I reckon it's a witty visual reference to the column and vaulted ceiling construction developed in Gothic architecture, in which case the Corinthian capital on top of the column has to be square, but you all new that anyway, didn't you?


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[smiife]

hi guys,
aaaaahhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmm.. that is not what i was expecting
i am sure the turning is great, but not too sure about the art on top :o
are you sure they put them up the right way:U:U
thanks for showing the finished product
cheers smiife:2tsup:

[springwater]

Mamoth effort, 'cept I dunno why there's two, unless it's meant to be an entrance. I can't make out those irregular shapes at the base and don't remember seeing them at 's. FWIW I reckon the roots into square is the point

[Christos]

Interesting piece. :2tsup:

[hughie]

but you all new that anyway, didn't you?


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Yeah! dunno why you bothered to mention it :U

[RETIRED]

The square capital is in the right style for the column.

[springwater]

The square capital is in the right style for the column.

Is the square capital and the roots one piece ?

[RETIRED]

Is the square capital and the roots one piece ?I think so.

[Grumpy John]

I've done a bit of reading up on Corinthian Columns and I think that what's missing is the scrolls that help in the transformation from round column to square capital. :dunno:
Don't get me wrong I think that it's an incredible piece of work and I know how much time and effort and TL put into it.


Definition of Corinthian Column (http://architecture.about.com/od/buildingparts/g/corinthian-column.htm)

Features of a Corinthian Column:


Fluted (grooved) shaft
Capital decorated with scrolls, acanthus leaves, and flowers
Ornaments on the capital flare outwards, suggesting a sense of height

[Grumpy John]

I took a drive over to McClelland Gallery this arvo to check out the sculptures in the flesh (so to speak). Seems the exhibition isn't open yet and it's fenced off to the public. However after having a chat to one of the ladies in the gallery she went and got the lass in charge of the sculpture park and I was personally escorted to the new exhibit.
I still think that there needs to be some scroll work or something between the top of the column and the square capital.


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P.S. There's some more of Antons work in a post I put up in Photography

[Christos]

..... Seems the exhibition isn't open yet and it's fenced off to the public. However after having a chat to one of the ladies in the gallery she went and got the lass in charge of the sculpture park and I was personally escorted to the new exhibit.....


What nice person you managed to find. :2tsup:

[tea lady]

:2tsup: I think they look good with the proper finish on the whole thing. Unifies them a bit. I am not worried by the historical accuracy or otherwise of the square capitols. I like them.
:cool: Got my invite to the opening on the 18th November. Will probably hve blended ina lot better by then.

[springwater]

:2tsup: \Will probably hve blended ina lot better by then.

Bloody oath

[tea lady]

Went to the opening of the McClelland Sculpture Survey and Award on Sunday. Didn't realise it was such a big thing. Really hard to get a car park. :S A great exhibition. I think the piece looks great in reality. The whole exhibition is well worth a visit. Our pieces is designed by Anton McMurray.

McClelland Gallery & Sculpture Park (http://www.mcclellandgallery.com/index.php?prfPageId=McClelland-Sculpture-Survey-Award)

[tea lady]

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I really need another hair cut. :S

[Grumpy John]

Don't touch the exhibits :no:.
Are there other exhibits in the Survey, or is that the only one?

[springwater]

Looks more ghostly than before in the pics, looks great, love it!

[tea lady]

Looks more ghostly than before in the pics, looks great, love it!The white finish really unifies it. And it seems to be also getting that silvery serface wood gets in the weather already. :cool:

[tea lady]

Don't touch the exhibits :no:.
Are there other exhibits in the Survey, or is that the only one?:C Some lady was saying that to us too. WT.... ? Birds and weather are going to touch it. :hmm: I thought out door sculpture needed to withstand being climbed. :shrug: ALthough finding a kid in teh top of these pillars could be a bit of a problem.

[tea lady]

There is thirty something exhibits. Well worth seeing.:cool:

[BobWoodworks]

After the initial start, the fun begins.