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Cliff Rogers
24th November 2013, 09:39 PM
I have attempted to get a WIP photo story of this deep hollowing tool being used to turn a deep hollow vase using green/wet Jacaranda.

During the process, there were at least 3 of us working on this piece in shifts.

First up, the log is mounted between centres & roughed out to round & then the end is cleaned up square for mounting on a large faceplate with good long roof screws.

Cliff Rogers
24th November 2013, 09:46 PM
Next, the outside & the top are roughed out & a hole is drilled down the centre with a forstner bit on an extension bar.

Cliff Rogers
24th November 2013, 09:51 PM
Now the piece is transferred to the long bed lathe that has the deep hollowing tool set up on it.

The tip gets a quick touch up on the grinder & is set at the right angle & then work begins on the hollowing process.

Cliff Rogers
24th November 2013, 09:56 PM
Notice the little bulb mounted beside the tip so the turner can see what is going on.

The lathe has to be stopped on a regular basis to blow out the shavings & check the progress.

Cliff Rogers
24th November 2013, 10:03 PM
If you look back up at the middle pic in post 2, you will see that has turned a foot/spigot/dovetail on the base of the rough shape to allow it to be remounted in a large chuck for finishing after it has had time to dry.

In the first pic below, the 'team' are 'parting off' a piece that was turned earlier in the day with a saw.

The 2nd pic is that piece sitting in a corner waiting to dry.

The 3rd pic is of one that had been roughed out ahead of time & it had been cleaned up & sanded the day before.

You can see the 'refinement' that has gone into the shape of the pieces.... had a bit to do with that. :2tsup:

Cliff Rogers
24th November 2013, 10:10 PM
OK, now I am out of photos but you should all be able to see how this is done.

A big thank you to the Gold Coast Woodturners Club & , I enjoyed myself.

Now, before anybody asks, the deep hollowing tool used in this demo is not commercially available although the tip used is.

If you want one like it, you have to build it yourself. :D

TTIT
24th November 2013, 10:16 PM
Great work on the pics Cliff :2tsup: I reckon that hollowing rig is a slight case of overkill for the size of the forms but you work with what you've got I suppose :shrug:
What type of lamp is it?? - often thought it would be nice to have some light while I'm hollowing rather than just checking with the pen-torch after each clean out :think:

Cliff Rogers
24th November 2013, 10:19 PM
It is a small 12V bulb with 2 prongs on it stuck into a 2 pin socket held in place with a handful of cable ties.

Hermit
24th November 2013, 10:25 PM
Pretty neat tool. I like the parallel bars to support the rear, too.
I'd love to see it pushed to the limit - a 6 foot vase.

Thanks for posting the pics, Cliff.

dr4g0nfly
25th November 2013, 05:19 AM
It is a small 12V bulb with 2 prongs on it stuck into a 2 pin socket held in place with a handful of cable ties.

Cliff, I don't have a deep hollowing system, but built a light system to go inside my forms.

I used an LED array (cold light and no glass to break) and - at last found a use for one of those old mobile phone 5V chargers, to power then.

Cliff Rogers
25th November 2013, 08:13 AM
I didn't make this set up, I was visiting & I had the camera. :)

wheelinround
25th November 2013, 09:16 AM
Cliff TY for the WiP some dimensions would be nice of the vessel Pls.

Time to upgrade the camera to one which also does Video :p

Cliff Rogers
25th November 2013, 02:50 PM
That one will do video, but even just with stills alone there is 203Mb.

You'll have to wait for the man who owns the gear to check in on this thread to get dimensions... I was just a visitor on the day who happened to have a camera.

WOODbTURNER
25th November 2013, 04:11 PM
Isn't this the same or similar setup that Brian McEnvoy of Canada designed??

Swino
25th November 2013, 08:59 PM
The hollowing bar is along the same lines of Brian McEvoys. I bought the plans a couple of years ago and used these to build the system. Along the way we made a few changes / improvements. The tips and tool holders were purchased from Brian McEvoy as they are not easily manufactured. The light is a 12v light that is run at 24v - it does blow bulbs occasionally :doh:

I'll measure the forms and put down the exact dimensions - I would guess the finished form is approximately 400mm tall. The bar will hollow a lot longer but I need to make up a steady system first.

I enjoyed the day immensely and will post WIP's once I get a suitable steady system built with larger pieces.

springwater
25th November 2013, 09:00 PM
6ft deep hollowing bar...typical Queenslanders :rolleyes::p

powderpost
25th November 2013, 09:20 PM
An excellent exercise, just wish I could have been there too. But then I couldn't see a glue pot any where????????? :U
Jim

Cliff Rogers
25th November 2013, 11:00 PM
An excellent exercise, just wish I could have been there too. But then I couldn't see a glue pot any where????????? :U
JimIt was in the esky, next to the beer.
Most of the blokes just drank the beer so there is still heaps of glue for you to sniff. :D

Cliff Rogers
25th November 2013, 11:02 PM
... The bar will hollow a lot longer but I need to make up a steady system first.....It would also work better if the base wasn't cut so thin before the hollowing started... just saying. :think: :D

RETIRED
26th November 2013, 07:46 AM
It would also work better if the base wasn't cut so thin before the hollowing started... just saying. :think: :D:p:wink: Whinging, whining mongrels. Next time I will leave you a 2" neck and a 1" base.:D

Cliff Rogers
26th November 2013, 08:17 AM
Deep hollowed egg cups. :think:

wheelinround
26th November 2013, 08:27 AM
That one will do video, but even just with stills alone there is 203Mb.

You'll have to wait for the man who owns the gear to check in on this thread to get dimensions... I was just a visitor on the day who happened to have a camera.



Cliff sorry didn't mean the size of the 6' rig I meant size of the vase :U

Sawdust Maker
26th November 2013, 10:10 AM
Cliff

thanks for showing us this :2tsup:

Cliff Rogers
26th November 2013, 11:11 AM
Cliff sorry didn't mean the size of the 6' rig I meant size of the vase :U

Same deal, I don't own the gear or the vase(s), Swino is your man & he said....

I'll measure the forms and put down the exact dimensions - I would guess the finished form is approximately 400mm tall.
You'll just have to be patient 'cos he has a day job to go to.

hughie
26th November 2013, 10:25 PM
6' :o, Jeez 6ft long would me have standing outside my shed :D

wheelinround
27th November 2013, 09:12 AM
6' :o, Jeez 6ft long would me have standing outside my shed :D

And a GtG to watch you use it :U