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bazzakeen
2nd June 2005, 06:38 PM
I am using a contact adhesive to glue my veneer, I am not completely happy with this method, any sugestions please? I live in England, so brand names may be differant over here.

AlexS
2nd June 2005, 09:31 PM
On my only attempt, I used PVA, which seemed to work OK. Not sure what the experts recommend.

powderpost
6th June 2005, 11:59 PM
I am a bit late picking up on this thread, but contact adhesive is not really a good glue for veneer. It is too hard to avoid lumps. I use pva adhesives, in particular one that is crosslinked and is a polyaliphatic. I have no idea what that all means technically, but it is very good, sets quickly and cuts well. Apply the adhesive to the grounds, not the veneer. The water in water based adhesives will make the veneer swell and may make the joins overlap... disaster.
Jim

martink
7th June 2005, 03:25 AM
Ok, you have just spewed a lot of techie words at us for glue. Help those less gifted - what is the brand and/or type of glue that you are talking about here?

Thanks,

martin.

powderpost
7th June 2005, 11:20 PM
Martink, my post was in response to that chap in England, who did say that brandnames probably wouldn't mean much. The glue I refered to is a Selley's product called 'Tradesmans Choice'. It belongs to the aquahdere group and is considered to be water resistant. All the "techie stuff" you will find written on the container. I used the "techie stuff" to help the englishman recognise their equivalent brand name, not to big note myself with techie jargon.

Jim

violincrafter
9th June 2005, 03:15 PM
Hi Woodies and borers lol,
Mr Bazzakeen the glue most suited for your craft I believe to be "hide" glue or "pearl" glue. It is animal derived but has very good bonding and is "user" friendly. If you need to repair your work its a great advantage to use this glue rather than any synthetic polyvinyl acetate.

In order to apply it you need to dissolve it in water first to the right consistency and using a double pot hide glue pot that is heated to the correct temp.

It holds fast and is an old time favourite thats not used much nowadays and only by traditionalists. In your craft it fits this category more so than the modern!

Heres a link on some interesting information

http://www.restoration-advice.org/Pages/veneering.html

http://www.violins.on.ca/luthier/glue.html

Also there is a special flat tool rake that is used to press the timbre into final figure.

http://deller.com/newpage8.htm

bazzakeen
9th June 2005, 08:01 PM
thanks every one for your help, I did consider using PVA adhesive but wondered if the moisture content would swell the veneer, I guess the answere is to use it thinly, I shall certainly use this method, but I think a bit of practise may be called for, thanks again.