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Coxy15
28th March 2015, 09:44 AM
Well,

After 12 years of not touching a lathe, I finally bought my own one from Hare and Forbes. It's only a cheapie to get me going, but I like it. It's perfect for me who will use it every two weeks or so when i am home.

I bought this as I said from Hare and Forbes as they were having a sale on, They had a man there who was doing a bit of a demonstration who gave me a bit of a hands on play which was good of him, also steered me in the direction of things to get with the Lathe including an emery wheel to keep things sharp.

I am not trying to go against the grain of people here on this forum, but I would suggest having a go at least! I know people on this forum steer people toward the woodwork clubs and if you have time to get to them, well I wholeheartedly agree, but if you don't, have a bit of a go! I bought the Lathe and a starter kit of tools (Not saying they're the best, but they're good enough to start with, I also bought some square blocks of Pine from Bunnings and just took it slow. I have been watching youtube clips for a week before I started including some really good safety ones I found on this site.

Either way, I had a play with some pine and then bought some Campholoral over the weekend, and just so everyone knows, Campholoral STINKS! I love the smell of wood, but this was something else, no wonder moths don't get into it!

Here are some photo's of the weekends project that I had a go with, I know it's not the best, and I have a lot of work to do but I am happy for a first effort. I would recommend getting a bowl gouge though.....

I used some french polish and also some bees wax that I got from bunnings, I am not convinced on it though, I see a lot of people use Danish oil, can anyone suggest anything to use along these lines? Someone told me about mixing Shellac, boiled lanolin oil and metho....?

Tim



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Beesncheese
1st April 2015, 10:06 PM
Its great ! wish I had started earlier and there are some brilliant characters to subscribe to on Youtube, like watch Mike Waldt. I mix shellac, metho and boiled linseed together and like you Im looking at different stuff, currently its wipe on poly but not impressed, Ubeaut have a good range too. Careful its additive this turning lark !

Treecycle
1st April 2015, 10:25 PM
You go for it Tim, practice will make perfect. Having someone show you everything might show you the right way, but just having a go will teach you a lot of things. Get that bevel rubbing as you cut and the lines will get a lot smoother.
You didn't get a bowl gouge with your starter kit?

Ticky
2nd April 2015, 12:58 AM
Looks great to me.
Im only a novice turner myself, but I bought a Robert Sorby Starter kit & I would strongly recommend that brand. It cost me more than my lathe, but wonderful chisels. I have since bought a RS 38mm 1/4 round Bowl Scrapper. I had to sell one of my youngest children to get this but it's a beautiful chisel.

Don't go getting all pissy at me now, I didn't really sell her! I traded her :wink:


Steve

Coxy15
2nd April 2015, 05:22 AM
Its great ! wish I had started earlier and there are some brilliant characters to subscribe to on Youtube, like watch Mike Waldt. I mix shellac, metho and boiled linseed together and like you Im looking at different stuff, currently its wipe on poly but not impressed, Ubeaut have a good range too. Careful its additive this turning lark !

Yeah I did the Metho, Shellac and Linseed oil thing too, it comes up alright…..not great, not bad, but alright…..I have some beeswax polish and it does the same thing from what I can see……I like Mike Waldt, he has pretty much been one of the people who I have watched every video of his before I started, it was a great help! I am the same, I don't know why I didn't do this earlier too!


You go for it Tim, practice will make perfect. Having someone show you everything might show you the right way, but just having a go will teach you a lot of things. Get that bevel rubbing as you cut and the lines will get a lot smoother.
You didn't get a bowl gouge with your starter kit?

Hi there,

Yeah I know it all comes in with experience, I just had a piece of Jarrah that I turned down into a bowl, the lines are better already. Still not 100% but I am happy with Progress. No I didn't get a bowl gouge with it, it was a $100 starter kit, very very basic. The reason I got this kit was, I ordered a $400 Record Power starter kit, but the weekend I went to pick it up, they sold out, I am waiting to get it mid this month. The tools will make a whole world of difference.

This is the Jarrah bowl I turned last night and the night before:

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Looks great to me.
Im only a novice turner myself, but I bought a Robert Sorby Starter kit & I would strongly recommend that brand. It cost me more than my lathe, but wonderful chisels. I have since bought a RS 38mm 1/4 round Bowl Scrapper. I had to sell one of my youngest children to get this but it's a beautiful chisel.

Don't go getting all pissy at me now, I didn't really sell her! I traded her :wink:


Steve

Hi Steve,

Great to hear from you, thanks for the comments.

There is nothing wrong with trading a few loose items in is there? Just never let the boss (Missus) find out!

Tim

Treecycle
2nd April 2015, 09:15 AM
Looks like progress already.
A good finish you can use to give your work a smooth shiny finish is Shellawax cream (http://www.ubeaut.com.au/cream.html). You need to sand to a fine finish first and then apply.

Coxy15
2nd April 2015, 09:23 AM
Looks like progress already.
A good finish you can use to give your work a smooth shiny finish is Shellawax cream (http://www.ubeaut.com.au/cream.html). You need to sand to a fine finish first and then apply.

Funny you say this, I went to Bunnings and found some Bee's polish with Carnuba in it, I thought it was wax, it wasn't =( Oh well, thanks for the tip on the Shellawax, I will give it a go!

Tim

WaggaSteve
2nd April 2015, 11:14 AM
I tried to trade my oldest (coincidentally also called Tim Cox) but they wanted me to give them money as well !!. You sound like you might be a rotator as well as a turner- where from

There is nothing wrong with trading a few loose items in is there? Just never let the boss (Missus) find out!

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Christos
2nd April 2015, 08:49 PM
Before I started turning I was fortunate enough to have one of the members of the forum give me some hands experience on his lathe.

The main purpose of doing that was to understand what to be aware of and how to avoid getting into trouble(catches). When I finally started turning and would get the odd catch I stopped and think of what I was doing.

That's something not all videos show you. There are at least three that I can recall that have basic guidelines on wood turning.

It is a very enjoyable hobby to make something.

Ticky
2nd April 2015, 09:34 PM
I have heard of a Ubeaut product called Glow (I think). Never used it, but Ive heard it's pretty good.

I have done a couple of bowels with Burnishing oil & thats not bad.


I don't get away with too much mate.


Steve

Coxy15
3rd April 2015, 08:16 AM
I tried to trade my oldest (coincidentally also called Tim Cox) but they wanted me to give them money as well !!. You sound like you might be a rotator as well as a turner- where from

There is nothing wrong with trading a few loose items in is there? Just never let the boss (Missus) find out!

Tim[/QUOTE]

There are a few of us (Tim Cox's) around, there is one well known radio presenter also!


Before I started turning I was fortunate enough to have one of the members of the forum give me some hands experience on his lathe.

The main purpose of doing that was to understand what to be aware of and how to avoid getting into trouble(catches). When I finally started turning and would get the odd catch I stopped and think of what I was doing.

That's something not all videos show you. There are at least three that I can recall that have basic guidelines on wood turning.

It is a very enjoyable hobby to make something.

I did post a question if anyone could show me a while back, but everyone must be a little busy with easter and all….Not to worry, I had a catch or two, nothing major, but I quickly remembered my old teacher telling me about listening to what the tools and lathe is telling me, and you can re-adjust from there.


I have heard of a Ubeaut product called Glow (I think). Never used it, but Ive heard it's pretty good.

I have done a couple of bowels with Burnishing oil & thats not bad.


I don't get away with too much mate.


Steve

I went to get some of the Shellawax yesterday, I got put onto something called Briwax instead, according to the chap, he believes it stands up to moisture a bit better than the shellawax and also lasts a little longer……I have tried it, but not so convinced yet.

Tim

Oldgreybeard
3rd April 2015, 08:46 AM
I have heard of a Ubeaut product called Glow (I think). Never used it, but Ive heard it's pretty good.

I have done a couple of bowels with Burnishing oil & thats not bad.


I don't get away with too much mate.


Steve

That must have been a painful experience, Steve:oo:

Bob

Treecycle
3rd April 2015, 04:56 PM
I don't think the Briwax is the same type of polish as Shellawax from what I read about it. It only sounds like a protective polish to put over something that is already coated with something.
Shellawax is a friction polish that gets applied with a rag while the lathe is running, and the heat generated creates the shine and seals the surface. The Shellawax cream is best for larger items like bowls, and the liquid is good for small items like pens etc. Only a very small amount is required to put a finish on a bowl or platter type object.
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Ticky
3rd April 2015, 08:01 PM
That must have been a painful experience, Steve:oo:

Bob


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Coxy15
3rd April 2015, 10:15 PM
I don't think the Briwax is the same type of polish as Shellawax from what I read about it. It only sounds like a protective polish to put over something that is already coated with something.
Shellawax is a friction polish that gets applied with a rag while the lathe is running, and the heat generated creates the shine and seals the surface. The Shellawax cream is best for larger items like bowls, and the liquid is good for small items like pens etc. Only a very small amount is required to put a finish on a bowl or platter type object.
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Ah ok, I have mis-understood, I thought the shellawax was the final coat, I was told that Briwax was intact a wax, so final coating, I would say it'd go over the shellawax then…..? I might have a chat with Carbatec tomorrow about it.

Thanks for the handy info!

jay h
4th April 2015, 12:27 AM
Hi Coxy 15, I prefer turning to finishing but finishing is necessary. What I look for is something quick, easy and repeatable. for mine Glo is my go to finish (it is a little darker than Shellawax. If I need a darker finish I use EEE before Glo. If a lighter finish is required I use Shellawax. For a flatter finish I use Oil ( danish,hard burnishing, Blo, penetrol or wipe on poly). These are very easy and quick to apply. Jay

Coxy15
5th April 2015, 07:04 AM
Well I did manage to get some shellawax EEE and also the Cream.

I was a little hesitant at first, but as they say, the result is in the pudding…..I mad a candle holder yesterday out of something, it was sold to me as Mahogany Burl, Im not convinced, but I have been known to be wrong. Either way, I tried everything on this little candle holder that I had, and it kept going back to a dull matte finish (Before I got the shellawax kit) This is what I mean:
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So after I got the shellawax stuff home, I re-sanded the whole thing to start from scratch, and also made up the second one so it's a pair…..this is the result:
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Thanks so much for the helpful advice on here, this stuff is really easy and well worth the money!

Tim

Treecycle
5th April 2015, 02:33 PM
Yes you can see the difference of before and after shots. Hopefully you were instructed that the EEE is used for the final smoothing of the surface before applying the Shellawax. Some people get misled into thinking that the EEE is an actual finish but it is only a cutting compound and will deteriorate very quickly if used as a finish.
Keep plugging away and keep showing us what you are doing.

Coxy15
6th April 2015, 05:11 PM
Well as the long weekend draws to a close, I have finished my last project for the time being, I ordered a few Bowl turning blanks, but I thought there has to be other things I can turn other than just bowls. I was looking through Carbatec and found some clocks, I figured I might give it a go.

I started with a 150mm dia piece of Tasmanian Blackwood, and trued it up, took it down to about 135 by the time it was right. I rounded up the front of it, made a cut into it and smoothed it out. All fairly basic really, but the result is a nice clock which I am pretty happy with. I did experience a slight problem with the cut being a little too big, It was much too small, but all of a sudden as I was widening it for the fifth time, it seemed to miss the point and went one size too big which was disappointing. I fixed it into place with a little bit of double sided tape and well, it's not the best, but its not too bad.

As always, any comments/tips/criticism is welcome….gives me an idea where I went wrong etc…..can't learn without it.

Tim

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Christos
6th April 2015, 11:17 PM
...... I did experience a slight problem with the cut being a little too big, It was much too small, but all of a sudden as I was widening it for the fifth time, it seemed to miss the point and went one size too big which was disappointing........


This was not so bad. The next one you will be aware as this is how we learn. As you have shared this with the rest of the world someone one day will also know what to look out for when they start wood turning for the first time.

I might also suggest that next time you start a new thread for each project.

Coxy15
7th April 2015, 06:27 AM
This was not so bad. The next one you will be aware as this is how we learn. As you have shared this with the rest of the world someone one day will also know what to look out for when they start wood turning for the first time.

I might also suggest that next time you start a new thread for each project.

Exactly, no learning without mistakes, I have a new tradesman at work who has never made a mistake with electrical work, that he tells us anyway…..but as soon as something out of the blue comes at him, he just freezes and doesn't know what to do.

I am happy to start a new thread, just didn't want to clog up the whole forum with my projects.

Tim

Ticky
13th April 2015, 11:35 PM
Just remember when you remove material, you are removing it from all sides of Centre. In other words, if you increase the size of the hole by 5mm to allow your Clock or whatever to fit, then you need to halve that amount & make a mark at 2.5mm.

Steve

Coxy15
14th April 2015, 06:43 AM
Just remember when you remove material, you are removing it from all sides of Centre. In other words, if you increase the size of the hole by 5mm to allow your Clock or whatever to fit, then you need to halve that amount & make a mark at 2.5mm.

Steve

Hi Steve,

Yeah thanks for the advice, Like I said, I went very slowly at it, but the last shaving I took off was just that little too much, I am not worried about it, but I do know for next time.

Thanks again

Tim