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planemaker
23rd July 2015, 03:49 PM
The die to stamp my brass backs arrived. 7 tonne of hydraulic pressure was needed to achieve a clear imprint on both lines of text. Nice craftsmanship from Chalco.

I still need to make a purpose jig before I can use it for my saw making work.

Stewie;

http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af219/swagman001/chalco%20stamp/DSC_0540_zpslctl2hka.jpg (http://s1009.photobucket.com/user/swagman001/media/chalco%20stamp/DSC_0540_zpslctl2hka.jpg.html)

derekcohen
23rd July 2015, 04:51 PM
Stewie, I hate to break this news to you, but what you have is an 'owner's mark", not a 'maker's mark". The Maker's Mark has a recessed background and a raised foreground (the lettering). The Owner's Mark is the opposite.

I have both type of stamps:

Maker ..
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Derek50/Name%20stamp/B1_zpsc5c34dd4.jpg

Owner ..
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Derek50/Name%20stamp/B5_zps9c7dcb63.jpg

Here is a discussion on SMC:

http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?207012-Stamps-for-marking-wood

I prefer the Owner's Mark. Yours is great, so you did well. Read my link for explanation.

Regards from Perth

Derek

planemaker
23rd July 2015, 07:44 PM
Hello Derek. Read this and you might learn something.

HAND STAMPS

Stamps can be divided into two main types

INTAGLIO Where the letters are cut into the face sunk (as in stamping coins)
INCUSE Where the face is cut in relief

http://www.spanglefish.com/metalstamps/index.asp?pageid=318975

Different types of makers marks. https://www.google.com.au/search?q=makers+marks&biw=1280&bih=563&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0CCgQsARqFQoTCN_D-ez88MYCFRYakgodD10CcQ

derekcohen
23rd July 2015, 09:10 PM
Stewie

I think that you can use any stamp for a sawback. Apology for the confusion (you need to change your forum name from Planemaker).

Planemaker stamps according to Chris Schwarz and Mazzaglia Tools:

http://mazzagliatools.com/BlumStamp.html

http://blog.lostartpress.com/2008/02/28/als-ik-kan-as-best-i-can/

http://mazzagliatools.com/files/1-stamp%20sample%20pix.jpg

I will check in my book of British Planes later but, from memory, every planemaker I recall uses a stamp like this ..

http://mazzagliatools.com/files/2-stamp%20sample%20pix.jpg

I see some interesting names there in.

Bill Carter ..

http://s3.spanglefish.com/s/18131/pictures/big/marks%20061.jpg

Regards from Perth

Derek

planemaker
23rd July 2015, 09:38 PM
Derek. The Intaglio Lettering (shown below) is suitable for marking end grain on wood, not a hard metal surface.

http://s3.spanglefish.com/s/18131/pictures/big/marks%20061.jpg

derekcohen
23rd July 2015, 09:48 PM
Derek. The Intaglio Lettering (shown below) is suitable for marking end grain on wood, not a hard metal surface.

Stewie, yes, that is the case, as it has been for 100s of years. But I choose not to use one like that on my tools and furniture since the force required is scary.

Regards from Perth

Derek

RayG
24th July 2015, 01:14 PM
Derek. The Intaglio Lettering (shown below) is suitable for marking end grain on wood, not a hard metal surface.

http://s3.spanglefish.com/s/18131/pictures/big/marks%20061.jpg

Hi Stewie,

I've see a few saw brass backs with intaglio stamps, not very common, and as you say, you'd need a pretty big press to do it.

353579

Your's looks good, can you post a link to where you got yours from? Apologies if you've posted it before.

Ray

planemaker
24th July 2015, 03:23 PM
http://www.spanglefish.com/metalstamps/index.asp?pageid=327246

Hi Ray. The guy in charge is Ian Houghton

The cost of my stamp was uk $120.00 + uk $14.00 postal.

With my stamp the outer measurements are 60mm(L) x 30mm(H). The height was governed by the dia of the boss on the end of the piston rod. The 2 lines of text have a combined height of 9mm. That gives me plenty of scope to position the text so it doesn't interfere with the top edge profile of the 19mm brass back.

Send me a pm if you require extra info.

regards Stewie;

Ashore
24th July 2015, 05:42 PM
If you put a micro bevel on the letters you wont need as much pressure

planemaker
24th July 2015, 09:30 PM
The stamp was tested on 1.2mm brass over a hardened steel bed. It will be interesting to see if less pressure is required on 1/4" gauge brass back.

Stewie;

planemaker
26th July 2015, 05:10 PM
http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af219/swagman001/chalco%20stamp/_DSC0003_zpswice51mr.jpg (http://s1009.photobucket.com/user/swagman001/media/chalco%20stamp/_DSC0003_zpswice51mr.jpg.html)

planemaker
31st July 2015, 12:46 AM
5 tonne pressure using a purpose built jig. :U

http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af219/swagman001/Queensland%20Maple%20Handle/_DSC0005_zpsjcezzewy.jpg (http://s1009.photobucket.com/user/swagman001/media/Queensland%20Maple%20Handle/_DSC0005_zpsjcezzewy.jpg.html)