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Pat
11th Mar 2016, 06:38 AM
Well I had to rush out and buy the 186, didn't I. It's a solid bit of kit, especially with the positive stops for the settings.Everything locks firmly. http://www.woodworkforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=373776&d=1457637420&thumb=1&stc=1

Now for the nitty gritty, I used my smallest gouge, 2.2mm Addis spindle gouge to check how small the jig will take, first time I could place that chisel in a jig.http://www.woodworkforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=373777&d=1457637649&thumb=1&stc=1

I wandered thru my gouges and brands checking fit and ease of use. The jig put up with the abuse. The locking is positive and easy to slide most normal sized chisels 8mm - 22mmhttp://www.woodworkforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=373774&d=1457636854&thumb=1&stc=1

I even got my 36mm Spindle gouge to fit.http://www.woodworkforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=373773&d=1457636813&thumb=1&stc=1

I'll play with it more today, throw the Ellsworth gouge thru it and see if it handles the eccentricities of that grind, without being "difficult".

It feels comfortable on the cross bar, swings in a controlled manner, especially handy on the 25mm wide wheels.

All in all, it is a good progression from the 185 and should replace it.

Optimark
11th Mar 2016, 08:23 AM
Good to know, I've ordered one. Seems the 185 jig, which I've found super fiddly with tiny stuff, will be replaced in due course with the 186 jig.

Mick.

Big Shed
14th Mar 2016, 08:24 PM
Test

Rod Gilbert
14th Mar 2016, 08:32 PM
Pity I have recently purchased a 185. Wish I had known.
Regards Rod.

greyhound
15th Mar 2016, 10:09 AM
Well I had to rush out and buy the 186, didn't I. It's a solid bit of kit, especially with the positive stops for the settings.Everything locks firmly. http://www.woodworkforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=373776&d=1457637420&thumb=1&stc=1

Now for the nitty gritty, I used my smallest gouge, 2.2mm Addis spindle gouge to check how small the jig will take, first time I could place that chisel in a jig.http://www.woodworkforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=373777&d=1457637649&thumb=1&stc=1

I wandered thru my gouges and brands checking fit and ease of use. The jig put up with the abuse. The locking is positive and easy to slide most normal sized chisels 8mm - 22mmhttp://www.woodworkforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=373774&d=1457636854&thumb=1&stc=1

I even got my 36mm Spindle gouge to fit.http://www.woodworkforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=373773&d=1457636813&thumb=1&stc=1

I'll play with it more today, throw the Ellsworth gouge thru it and see if it handles the eccentricities of that grind, without being "difficult".

It feels comfortable on the cross bar, swings in a controlled manner, especially handy on the 25mm wide wheels.

All in all, it is a good progression from the 185 and should replace it.

Very interesting think I will be changing over always found the 185 to be very troublesome especially with smaller tools .
As a matter of interest to me what wheel are you running on your tormek?

jimdivz
15th Mar 2016, 02:04 PM
Did you find one in Australia or have to get it from the States

Sawdust Maker
15th Mar 2016, 05:17 PM
Pat

can you drop it up here for my to have a play?
I'll only want it for a few weeks ...

Pat
15th Mar 2016, 05:58 PM
Greyhound, the wheel is the Woodcut CBN 250mm (http://www.cwsonline.com.au/shop/item/woodcut-cbn-wheel-250mm-x-40mm-x-180g) for the Torment. It was actually cheaper at the time than the Torment soft wheel. Purchased from Jim Carroll.

Jimdivz, Ideal Tools (http://www.idealtools.com.au/woodworking/tormek-sharpening-system) in Victoria, stock them. Carroll's Woodcraft also supply them.

Nick, you know where I live, if you get a free weekend day or a Friday, you are more than welcome to visit the sheds.

Sawdust Maker
15th Mar 2016, 06:23 PM
...
Nick, you know where I live, if you get a free weekend day or a Friday, you are more than welcome to visit the sheds.

I don't go that far on my holidays! :C

smiife
15th Mar 2016, 07:19 PM
Hi pat,
Looks like a good set up !:2tsup:
Do you run the cbn wheel thru the water :?

Pat
15th Mar 2016, 08:23 PM
Hello smiife, run the wheel thru water and then remember to lower the water trough when finished . . . only need to cover the bottom of the wheel by 10mm.

Pat
17th Mar 2016, 08:11 PM
Well, just before closing up for the night, I thought, I'll check the Ellsworth Gouge, which is Hole "A", 75mm protrusion and setting "6". PIA to do on the 185, without the positive locking.

Well, 30 second later, someone is putting a fresh edge on the Ellsworth, 20 seconds later, it's back in the rack and your correspondent is a happy little Paddy Jack :U

Sawdust Maker
17th Mar 2016, 08:40 PM
so the positive locking is the beez kneez or the antz pantz

have to admit on the 185 I was thinking I was getting some slippage

DaveTTC
17th Mar 2016, 08:53 PM
Thx Pat

Dave TTC
Turning Wood Into Art

Pat
17th Mar 2016, 09:33 PM
Nick, no slippage. The ease of changing from the normal position 2 to 6 and back again is a breeze.

Did I mention that I am happy with the performance of the jig?

greyhound
18th Mar 2016, 06:09 AM
Hello smiife, run the wheel thru water and then remember to lower the water trough when finished . . . only need to cover the bottom of the wheel by 10mm.

What is the advantage of running a CBN in water??

NCArcher
18th Mar 2016, 06:45 AM
clear the swarf from the wheel

Optimark
25th Mar 2016, 06:05 PM
I have had my 186 for 3 days, to say it is a stupendous re-design compared to the 185, does not do the 186 justice. The ease, speed and accuracy with which one can sharpen with this, compared to the 185, is unbelievable.

The single best change is the clamping system, no movement at all, plus you can get a positive 65mm, 75mm or whatever distance in about 5 seconds and it is on the money. I timed myself this evening after a day of turning, three gouges in 5'30" and I wasn't speeding. :D I wasn't hanging around either, but everything was perfect and that time included honing on the leather wheels for each one.

I have decided that the 185 jig will be partially dismantled, then stay set-up as an exchangeable cutter sharpener.

Mick.

greyhound
16th Jun 2016, 07:10 PM
I have had my 186 for 3 days, to say it is a stupendous re-design compared to the 185, does not do the 186 justice. The ease, speed and accuracy with which one can sharpen with this, compared to the 185, is unbelievable.

The single best change is the clamping system, no movement at all, plus you can get a positive 65mm, 75mm or whatever distance in about 5 seconds and it is on the money. I timed myself this evening after a day of turning, three gouges in 5'30" and I wasn't speeding. :D I wasn't hanging around either, but everything was perfect and that time included honing on the leather wheels for each one.

I have decided that the 185 jig will be partially dismantled, then stay set-up as an exchangeable cutter sharpener.

Mick.

Wow what a little ripper just got mine and put it through a few tests and what a difference from a tiny miniature spindle gouge to my largest bowl gouge absolute pleasure to use compared to the old model no more fiddling around trying to seat the gouge correctly.
Well done mr Tormek !

Mobyturns
17th Jun 2016, 09:08 AM
I will have to try one. The 185 certainly had a few issues but I still like my Heligrind for some tasks.