Manufactured "bands"

[Zed]

I recently got a reddie because I dared to give someone a red who I think deserved it. He got the red because he mentioned that he liked a band called "rogue traders". As you may know they are a one of the new breed of pathetic bands who dont have an original chord in 'em. in fact thier most recent "song" is a blatent plagurisation of "My Sharona".

Mind you the "lead singer" of this "band" who's pretty much at the opening of every envelope in order to stretch her 15 minutes has a nice set of mammalian protrubrences - which in itself is a likeable thing right ?

I like most people who like music are very selective on what is "good" or "bad" thus - they are "bad" and anyone who s over the age of say... 15 deserves a red (methinks).

Anyway in my eyes reputation is for giving or taking according to your personal prejudices. Thus becuase this tosser :D likes a crapulent band I feel I am justified in redding him for admitting it. bad luck I say.

thus to the poll - should those who deserve to be scoffed at be scoffed at ?

[redwood]

Well i think rouge traders are ace and the mammalian protrubrences are even acer;)

[silentC]

Zed, I don't think Harry really took it in the manner in which you intended it. Some of us are more used to your simian ways than others :p

Now you two fellas shake hands and be friends. I'll have none of your nonsense today, it's Friday and I've finally come out from under a dark cloud I've been under all week.

[Zed]

Well i think rouge traders are ace and the mammalian protrubrences are even acer;)

I cant give you red and green for one post!!! man that sucks! :D

[Waldo]

G'day Zed,

I'll agree with you on manufactured bands.

And where is the melody in stuff these days? Just repeated riffs - if any and a constant beat. It's all a POS.

Australia's darling boy from that thing on Ch 10, can't sing something original or write it and he rips a great Aussie song and calls it his song! I think Ted Bullpit should shoot him. :mad:

Only the great old bands can perform live on stage. Give me an example of someone today who actually looks like thye're performing live and not lipsincing to their own song? Modonna even lipsincs! :mad:

I'll stick to my stuff thanks, Pink Floyd and the stuff from the 80's. Yeah I like some new stuff, but I'm very selective.
None of this current R&B, hip hop POS thanks! :mad:

[doug the slug]

Well I personally wouldnt give someone a reddie just because their tast in music is different to mine




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[timberpassion]

I gotta disagree on the bagging someones tastes point only, If we all liked the same stuff then it would get boring fast.

Music means something different to everyone, wether they enjoy abit of fun, a particular style or can appreciate the talent and quality of a musician. Shouldnt make derogatory remarks about something as silly as Music thats un-Australian!! Unless there a Kiwi then its ok haha ( im 1/2 kiwi so these remarks hold no ground )

Whats currently doing the rounds in my workshop

Chris Cornell - Euphoria Morning
Colin Hay - Going Somewhere (Men at Work frontman, very very emotional music)
Jeff Buckley - Live at Siné (died way to young, amazing artist)
Best of John Lee Hooker 1965-1974 , absolute must have CD with duets with Van morrison is amazing to listen to 2 of the "greats
And a Dean Martin best of 4 CD set from the bargain bin at JB-hifi

But im getting off topic sorry (music is my 2nd passion)

RogueTraders do infact BLOW GOATS

But if shes doing the "blowing" Ill be the goat hahaha


Simon

[Shedhand]

Gangsta rap, ordinary rap, gospel, kylie, shyte, madonna, shyte. its all shyte. 50 cent, snoopy dog, marilyn manson, and anyone like 'em...shyte. Nothing much worth listening to has been produced since the late 70's. And if anyone posts support for any of that crap I'm gonna cover 'em in red....:mad::mad::mad::mad::D:D:D

[craigb]

Only one red?

What's he worried about?

At last count I think I've had 5 reds from you :rolleyes: (and a few greenies :D ).

[redwood]

I cant give you red and green for one post!!! man that sucks! :D

well i still have my bay city roller records, and abba posters;)



Nothing much worth listening to has been produced since the late 70's.

You need to stop listening to nostalga radio and put your 78`s and reel to reel away:rolleyes:

[Zed]

I gotta disagree on the bagging someones tastes point only,

Simon


Ok i'll buy that if the disagreement is on whether "Stairway to Heaven" is better than "Livin Livin maid" or that the riff in "hot for teacher" is better than the drum solo on "Black dog"... but c'mon - if you like nana maskuri, or any of the other shyte - you may as well hold up a card to "say my musical taste is aligned with my grandmother / 12 yr old neice" Ie "in me date"

fair go - "rogue traders" ???? you're farking kidding right ???

[CameronPotter]

I really didn't need to know that your grandmother was in your date... :mad: :mad:


;)

:D

[zenwood]

I wouldn't like to get a reddie just because someone disagreed with my taste in music.

I think music has been going downhill since the 70s...




























...the 1070s that is. Gimme those gregorian chants baby!

[E. maculata]

Music is Music, it's Tribal, It's Fun, It makes us smile, dance, tap our feet, fall in love, think & drink to, but that's all it is.
I could recite/sing every song word for word from Sgt Peppers by the time I was 5, knew what Mama Cass died from before Elvis left the building forever, tried to find hidden meanings in all sorts "sagist" tunes in my teens and early adulthood, before it dawned on me, John, Paul, Ringo & George were no more omnipotent than my own father, Jim Morrison had no more insight than Issac Asimov, and to top it all off was Gene Simmons a few years (decades even :o )ago saying to a reporter, "Why are you asking me these questions about world affairs, I'm a rock 'n roll artist, I play Guitar that's all I know" and you Gene are the one true sage of our age:p .
Does it make you wanna dance?, do you start singing along to it?, does it make you turn the radio up?, do you relate to it?, if yeah, right on brother who cares who wrote it, sang it, mixed it, and what it really means, don't over analyse just enjoy my brothers.


Both the Bachs
Wille Nelson & his ilk
Marlene Detriech
The 50s' rockers
The 60s' hippies & folkies, and insects
The Stones, Sabbath, Zepplin, Airplane, Disco kings and queens
Electrons and new romantics from the eighties, punk, madness, tommy tutone
strange tenants,
Balladeers and rappers, ripoffs and readymades, kylies and boybands

All good, it's the rich tapestry of music, to limit yourself to this that or the other is just plain silly, listen to your Kids' music you just may be surprised.
Shame on some of you Blokes, sounding I'll bet just like your Fathers:eek: .

Luckily one my old Mans' saving graces, was instilling in his offspring an appreciation of pleasing sounds in all its forms.

Bruce C.
Just another renaissance bloke from the current age

[redwood]

Music is Music, it's Tribal, It's Fun, It makes us smile, dance, tap our feet, fall in love, think & drink to, but that's all it is.-

-don't over analyse just enjoy my brothers.


Both the Bachs
Wille Nelson & his ilk
Marlene Detriech
The 50s' rockers
The 60s' hippies & folkies, and insects
The Stones, Sabbath, Zepplin, Airplane, Disco kings and queens
Electrons and new romantics from the eighties, punk, madness, tommy tutone
strange tenants,
Balladeers and rappers, ripoffs and readymades, kylies and boybands

All good, it's the rich tapestry of music, to limit yourself to this that or the other is just plain silly, listen to your Kids' music you just may be surprised.
Shame on some of you Blokes, sounding I'll bet just like your Fathers:eek: .




Here here, at last some sence that differs to those who think they are the only ones with real taste:cool:



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[outback]

who are the rogue tradres?

[boban]

Youre a smart man Bruce.

The Rogue Traders first song with the Elvis Costello riff was fantastic. The rest I dont care for. I like all types of music. If it sounds good then I dont give a toss about how its marketed or who sings it. For mine, I can't listen to the same music all the time whether it be Metallica or ABBA.

Before you flame me Ill bet that very few of you have a CD collection as diverse as mine. A lot of it is because I DJ'ed in a nightclub in the 90's, and the rest of it, because I love music.

I think there is very little totally "original" work out there but really as Bruce pointed out, who cares.

My only red has come from the ape for a post which received two greenies, so what does that say. BTW where can I cash in my points?

[Harry72]

Well well well, If you dont like rogue traders fair enough but just because I do there is no need to hit me with a red... grow up.
The reason I have taken offence was well explained in the reply to the PM you sent me...
Originally Posted by Harry72
"Well I do take it seriously as all my greenys have been earnt by the things I have made... not by posting a few jokes or what ever horse play the main posters play here(the horseplay doesnt bother me, as its part of this place and makes it what it is:D)

I do fail to see how im leading with my chin, sure post a smart ass reply(I'd laugh anyway) but a reddie nooooooooooo! :p"



Ps, I dont like rogue traders because of the singers tits, I like it because its not some lovey dovey crap that fills the market nowdays, and its the type of music I listen too while pumping weights at the gym(beat orentated).
If you think its a abonimation to the original it just shows you have no respect for taste... they wouldnt use it if was crap in the first place!(they dont use the song at all only parts of the main riff da da dat dat da dat da dat... bah baa bah ba)
And just to set a point straight... Rogue traders are not a prerecorded band with just singers and dancers performing, they are a proper band who do actualy have some real instruments played live....(yes they do have some synthetic parts, just about all do now)
Like shed hand said "Gangsta rap, ordinary rap, gospel, kylie, shyte, madonna, shyte. its all shyte. 50 cent, snoopy dog, marilyn manson, and anyone like 'em...shyte." I definately agree, its not about the music its (mostly not all)pure commercialist synthetic prerecored crap.:mad:

How do you think would others feel if I gave them a reddie because they're into the darkside of WW.... Id be shot down in flames.:eek:

Gee that was a long winded Ps :o

[Shedhand]

I also like Antony and the Johnsons (look 'em up on Google..brilliant and off the planet), Bjork, the White Stripes and Nick Cave etc etc. My tastes are very eclectic. :cool: I just don't think all those (predominately american) toothy big titted blondes have any musical talent and the songs they sing to computer generated music(?) is pure pap.:rolleyes:

[Groggy]

Shame on some of you Blokes, sounding I'll bet just like your Fathers:eek: .

Luckily one my old Mans' saving graces, was instilling in his offspring an appreciation of pleasing sounds in all its forms.

Y'know, that's funny. You tell 'em off for sounding like their fathers then explain why you sound like yours! :D:D:D

I liked your post btw.

[redwood]

I also like Antony and the Johnsons (look 'em up on Google..brilliant and off the planet), Bjork, the White Stripes and Nick Cave etc etc. My tastes are very eclectic. :cool: I just don't think all those (predominately american) toothy big titted blondes have any musical talent and the songs they sing to computer generated music(?) is pure pap.:rolleyes:

next thing youl be tellin us britney spears isnt any good:cool:

[craigb]

who are the rogue tradres?

I was wondering that myself :confused: :confused:

[E. maculata]

Y'know, that's funny. You tell 'em off for sounding like their fathers then explain why you sound like yours! :D:D:D



Yeah I know, every day I hear him talking to my kids using my voice:eek: , what can I say I'm human after all:o Oh the shame of it all.

BTW Ta, I write how I think, & I think how I wrote, same as I talk.

[glock40sw]

Jesus, Bruce.
I may have had to slap you up the back of the head with a maddock handle.
You were starting to go the Red, feelgood, communist, comrade path there for a few minutes.
But I see you have snapped out of it.

Fight it boy. fight like there is no tomorrow.
You too can have a neck as red as mine. You just need more practice.
Now, go take some production bonuses from the local yocals at Hurfords Firewoods...er...sorry...Hardwoods.

Hooroo.
Regards, Trevor
Grafton.

[Shedhand]

Hey Red you tasteless twerp. You give me a reddie with a smiley. Just in case you're serious and not just looking for a rise outta me...feck you.:mad::mad: Red coming your way. If you're just lookin' for a rise well..feck you again. And when I can, you get another reddie.
They're a queer lot in S.A. Must be the crazy Aryan blood.;):p

[Rusty]

I voted "whatever, man"...I just got home from doing an utterly bizarre thing for a 34 year old father of three- attending a 20th birthday party! I didn't even know the birthday girl! How wild and crazy am I?

Well, not very, actually. But I did manage to talk about the japanese proverb of trusting the tale, not the teller. That is to say, creativity comes from the spiritual and speaks to the spiritual in us, so we can relate to and be moved by music, art etc even from unlikely sources. What you hear in the music may be worlds removed from what the musician intended, but it's still legit for you.

Back on topic: It's just a reddie. Wear it with pride!

Rusty.

[redwood]

Hey Red you tasteless twerp. You give me a reddie with a smiley. Just in case you're serious and not just looking for a rise outta me...feck you.:mad::mad: Red coming your way. If you're just lookin' for a rise well..feck you again. And when I can, you get another reddie.
They're a queer lot in S.A. Must be the crazy Aryan blood.;):p

:D aw sheddy Aryan bloods a bit much :D


Gangsta rap, ordinary rap, gospel, kylie, shyte, madonna, shyte. its all shyte. 50 cent, snoopy dog, marilyn manson, and anyone like 'em...shyte. Nothing much worth listening to has been produced since the late 70's. And if anyone posts support for any of that crap I'm gonna cover 'em in red....:mad::mad::mad::mad::D:D:D

just gettin in first... you warned us:D

[Shedhand]

:D aw sheddy Aryan bloods a bit much :DOk. Was a bit over the top. Just feck you then...:D:p

[Shedhand]

I voted "whatever, man"...I just got home from doing an utterly bizarre thing for a 34 year old father of three- attending a 20th birthday party! I didn't even know the birthday girl! How wild and crazy am I?

Well, not very, actually. But I did manage to talk about the japanese proverb of trusting the tale, not the teller. That is to say, creativity comes from the spiritual and speaks to the spiritual in us, so we can relate to and be moved by music, art etc even from unlikely sources. What you hear in the music may be worlds removed from what the musician intended, but it's still legit for you.

Back on topic: It's just a reddie. Wear it with pride!

Rusty.Umm.what are you smokin' mate:o:cool:. And what did you do with a 34 year old man that was so bizarre.:eek::eek::D

[Rusty]

Drinking, not smoking. And it was for a 34 yr old, not with. Read it again, it's not difficult.;):)

[Shedhand]

Drinking, not smoking. And it was for a 34 yr old, not with. Read it again, it's not difficult.;):)Just testing;)

[Rusty]

Did I pass? :p

[Groggy]

Anyway in my eyes reputation is for giving or taking according to your personal prejudices. Thus becuase this tosser :D likes a crapulent band I feel I am justified in redding him for admitting it. bad luck I say.Zed, I suspect you have read the following, but here it is anyway, from the FAQ, verbatim:

"Negative reputation should be given if the person is posting something that detracts from the conversation. If the post is rude, inappropriate, breaks forum rules, is not gracious, etc; these are all good reasons to give negative reputation.
If you have a personal grudge against someone, it is not appropriate to give them negative reputation for no reason. Giving negative reputation because you don't agree with what was said is also inappropriate use of the reputation system. People are entitled to their own opinions, just because you don't agree doesn't mean the user was wrong or not contributing to the conversation."

Really, by giving him a reddie for stating his opinion you probably should have earned one yourself for breaking forum rules on managing reputation.

[floyd7]

I'll stick to my stuff thanks, Pink Floyd and the stuff from the 80's. Yeah I like some new stuff, but I'm very selective.
None of this current R&B, hip hop POS thanks! :mad:

I`m with you there waldo ;)

[E. maculata]

I`m with you there waldo ;)

Even Ummagumma?
I'm trying to find the 2 other blokes who bought the album:o alledgely one of them actually likes it:p .

[Shedhand]

"Icy wind of night be gone this is not your domain"
In the sky a bird was heard to cry.
Misty morning whisperings and gentle stirring sounds
Belied the deathly silence that lay all around.

Grantchester Meadows

;)

[Max Ripper]

Don't forget Zeds favs - Elton john and Robbie Williams.


Max Ripper Are red dots always round fat n ugly? like this thread

[Waldo]

Even Ummagumma?
I'm trying to find the 2 other blokes who bought the album:o alledgely one of them actually likes it:p .


G'day Malacuta & Floyd7,

That was the first album of Pink Floyd's that I bought, cassette really. :cool:

Gotta love great taste in great music. There are other woodies who are Floyd fans, Gumby for example, sounds like Shedland is a fan too.

[HiString]

What shall we use to fill the empty
Spaces where we used to talk
How shall I fill the final places
How shall I complete The Wall

:cool:

[Waldo]

Into the distance, a ribbon of black
Stretched to the point of no turning back
A flight of fancy on a windswept field
Standing alone my senses reeled
A fatal attraction holding me fast, how
Can I escape this irresistible grasp?






(One thing I've always wanted to play, is to be able to play the guitar like David Gilmour, for example the guiter solo in "Sorrow" or any other you can think about, now there is someone who knows how to play :cool: , but alas I can't play)

[Zed]

I'm a zappa man meself :

Why does it hurt when I pee...
Why does it hurt when I pee...
I dont want on doctor to stick no needle in me....
Why does it hurt when I Peee,eee, aye,ayeayea.

I caught on the toilet seat,
I caught on the toilet seat,
It jumped right up,
and grabbed my meat!
caught on the toilet seat,

My balls feel like a pair of maraccas,
My balls feel like a pair of maraccas,
Why does it, Why does it, Why does it,
Why does it hurt...... when...... I pee...!!!

damn fine song.

eltie is fine, a world without robbie williams and his ilk is better.

[redwood]

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The Central Scrutinizer is out to protect you from the harmful effects of that horrible force called music:cool:

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[floyd7]

Even Ummagumma?
I'm trying to find the 2 other blokes who bought the album:o alledgely one of them actually likes it:p .
Yes Bruce, even Ummagumma. Piper at the gates of dawn and A saucer full of secrets are also good. I have them all :D

[Waldo]

Yes Bruce, even Ummagumma. Piper at the gates of dawn and A saucer full of secrets are also good. I have them all :D

G'day,

Yep got them too. Don't have all their albums - wish I did though.

Those little picts (sp?) in the garden require a a certain mood to listen to. Good for breaking boring jobs while working into something a bit more physcadelic (sp? :confused: )

I wasn't there for the 60's but these guys were. :D

[Andy Mac]

Got a boxed set of Pink Floyd, vinyl. Now my turntable's retired/replaced I wish I had them all on CD...:cool: Good shed music.

[redwood]

My Ummagumma live lp was stolen long ago:( :( :(
But its hard to go past darkside of the moon synced up with the wizard of oz and wish you were here synced with blade runner. Gilmour, Waters and crew were ahead of their time:cool: :cool:

[redwood]

I wish I had them all on CD.



:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: thats a disgusting thing to say :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
They need a needle not a little lazer to be at their brilliant best;)

[fxst]

Got a boxed set of Pink Floyd, vinyl. Now my turntable's retired/replaced I wish I had them all on CD...:cool: Good shed music.
a fair while ago our turntable died and all our albums sat around then I got an idea and bought a turntable at tandys and hooked it into my computer and now all my Pink Floyd,cat stevens ,boxed set beatles led zep etc are on cd (personal use) and the vinyl stuff is safely packed away :D
I now have shed music and also as mp3's on my mp3 pod thingy:D
Best of both worlds and I now dont have to worry about the vinyl ones getting scratched...................Sorry Al no Max B here
Pete

[silentC]

I put my hand up as a Floyd fan. Animals is my favourite. Also got every album Bowie made until he went mad in the 80's.

[Lignum]

I put my hand up as a Floyd fan. Animals is my favourite. Also got every album Bowie made until he went mad in the 80's.

Aladin Sane is my pic. Scary Monsters was his last decent album.

If you get the chance Geoff Duff ex- Kush has an album and sings Bowie songs in the mannor of Frank Sinartra and vice versa. Its called Ground control to Frank Sinatra. Great listening:)

[silentC]

Hard to pick a favourite. The Man Who Sold the World maybe. Aladdin Sane is up there too.

Agree on Scary Monsters. He lost the plot after that.

[HiString]

Bowie's never lost the plot...............he just avoided being totally drawn into the "commercial/mainstream" side of the business and maintained his evolving individuality, consequently, some of his offerings haven't appealed to people.




"The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench.........a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs.
There's also a negative side" ----Hunter S Thompson----

:cool:

[silentC]

he just avoided being totally drawn into the "commercial/mainstream" side of the business and maintained his evolving individuality
Two words for you: Let's Dance.

Plot lost. QED :p

[HiString]

OIY!!!:D

That's why I said "he just avoided being totally drawn into " .......the implication being that there are/were exceptions.

Personally, I think that is a damned good song, even had some hack guitarist with the initials SRV playin' on it. Pin Ups is probably my fave album even if it is a lot of covers.

:cool:

[silentC]

There are the occasional good bits on some of the later albums, not that I've listened to anything much beyond Blue Jean.

I suppose what I should have said is that he lost me ;)

[Lignum]

Low, Heros and then Lodger in the late 70`s was the first i thought he wasnt the god i thought he was, then back with a vengance with Scary Monsters then unfourtunatly all down hill from Lets Dance onward. Remember Tin Machine:eek:

[silentC]

I started listening to him with Lodger, discovered the other stuff retrospectively. There are a couple of good tracks on it IMO. Likewise Low has some good stuff on it if you can get past Brian Eno. Not my favourites though.

[Lignum]

Every album he put out would have a track or two on it thats good, after all the bloke is pretty special when it comes to music. Heros was the pick of the three for me. Later he done the soundtrack for The Buddha of Suburbia which i loved. But compare all those to Space Oddity, Man hwo Sold the World, the sensational Hunky Dory, Ziggy, Alladi Sane, Pin upps, Diamond Dogs and the very underated Station to Station, the post Scary Monsters are rather dull and ordinary;)

[silentC]

Station to Station is probably one of my favourite tracks. Love Earl Slick's lead riff in the tail end of it.

[TassieKiwi]

a fair while ago our turntable died and all our albums sat around then I got an idea and bought a turntable at tandys and hooked it into my computer and now all my Pink Floyd,cat stevens ,boxed set beatles led zep etc are on cd (personal use) and the vinyl stuff is safely packed away :D
I now have shed music and also as mp3's on my mp3 pod thingy:D
Best of both worlds and I now dont have to worry about the vinyl ones getting scratched...................Sorry Al no Max B here
Pete

Is this difficult? I have not heard one of my 200+ LP's for 10 years. I was just thinking 'bout setting up the LP12 again - this could make me do it. What's the sound quality like, what gear do you need etc?
I see that Dave Gilmour has a new albumn out, and is touring in the states. He also announced that the Floyd would never do another live gig. Bugger, lucky I saw 'em in the UK.

This is a wierd thread. I like it.

[Lignum]

I have not heard one of my 200+ LP's for 10 years. I was just thinking 'bout setting up the LP12 again



Copying from an LP12 to disk is a discrace and you should hang your head in shame for contemplating it. The sound of the LP12 is pure heaven compared to the sounds compressed digital stuff.

Set the Linn up, get a new needle for your cartrige, dust down side one of Darkside of the Moon, dimm the lights, have a little toke, kick back and enjoy an experience that would make an ipod seem like an old 78:cool:

[HiString]

If push came to shove, I'd opt for the 78s;)