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macca2
15th March 2006, 10:59 PM
I have turned a couple of pepper grinders using the crushgrind mechanism. It is a fantastic system, if a little pricey.
I now want to make a pair of salt and pepper using the same timber for both.
Given that there are no knobs on the top of the crushgrind mills has anyone got any bright ideas how to distiguish the salt from the pepper.
I could make one dark wood and one light wood but I realy want them identical.

Thanks Macca

Wood Butcher
15th March 2006, 11:20 PM
What about placing a small plug of timber on top of one of the grinders. The timber could be almost the same timber but just different enough to be able to notice.

Skew ChiDAMN!!
15th March 2006, 11:37 PM
One method I like to use is a small corian insert. Either a disk on top or laminate a band somewhere into the blank.

I use Snowflake corian for salt and the white-flecked grey "Salt'n'Pepper' to indicate pepper. :)

CameronPotter
16th March 2006, 09:01 AM
Nice idea Skew!

Where do you get the Corian?

Cam

macca2
16th March 2006, 12:37 PM
Thanks for the ideas.
I don't have corian big enough for a band in the body but do have pieces that would work as a plug in the top.
Sounds like the way to go.

Thanks
Macca

Skew ChiDAMN!!
16th March 2006, 02:53 PM
I'm lucky; Ive a friend who has a monopoly on skip-diving at a local benchtop dealer. Of course, this means that he keeps the better pieces and the rarer stock, but I still end up with more than enough of the basic colours for what I want.

Another alternative, which I use less frequently 'cos of cost, is guitar scratchplate/pick material I buy from a local musical supplier. Sheets of about 7-1/2" x 9" x 2mm (3 ply) cost me $12.95 The types I use most are simple layered black-white-black and white-black-white. Not the best choice for disk inserts, but lovely as laminated bands in pens, mills and the like. Needs a good epoxy type glue though... PVA just doesn't cut it. :o

Sprog
16th March 2006, 06:35 PM
You could also use Opalac for an insert

Opalac (http://www.timbecon.com.au/products/opalac-acrylic-519_0.aspx)

hughie
17th March 2006, 11:55 AM
Another alternative would be to use imitation ivory. Its been around for years as a substitute in the manufacture of such things as bagpipes etc. The beauty of it is you just mix up enough and pour it into the gap/hole/groove etc and then turn and polish. You can do inlay type work with it and use any colour you want.
If you look at the pics below I used graphite for the colour. The trick I found with it is to have one or two coats of the final finish already on the bowl etc. This allows you to be a bit sloppy in the application with out staining the bowl:D :D

The tiny holes/inclusions you can see is because i mixed it to vigorously at the end after the hardener was added.......boofhead...lol :o

Try this link

http://www.uilleann.us/imivory/ImitationIvory.htm (http://www.uilleann.us/imivory/ImitationIvory.htm) this is the one I prefer

a bit of background info
http://www.deutsches-kunststoff-museum.de/optimal/ethema31.htm (http://www.deutsches-kunststoff-museum.de/optimal/ethema31.htm)

Henleys Cyclopeidia of trade secrets
http://www.librum.us/i-henley/index.htm (http://www.librum.us/i-henley/index.htm) This one I have a copy of but, some kind soul has placed the whole darn thing on the net and its searchable

Skew ChiDAMN!!
17th March 2006, 07:47 PM
What's the wood, Hughie? Did you glue up individual sheets or is it laminated plys? At first glance I thought 'twas a scribed solid, but some of the layers are way too different in colour.

Nice effect though!

hughie
19th March 2006, 03:09 AM
Hey Skew,
Its load bearing construction plywood, which is laminated hardwood and its as hard as.....well darn near bullet proof. All it was was an exercise in tool sharpening:D :D :D
Funny thing though everybody who see's it loves it????plywood?? Kinda got the Bali look they reckon.
One thing though it makes damn good handles. plenty of weight and strength.
hughie

Skew ChiDAMN!!
19th March 2006, 04:24 PM
Its load bearing construction plywood, which is laminated hardwood and its as hard as.....well darn near bullet proof. All it was was an exercise in tool sharpening:D :D :D
Funny thing though everybody who see's it loves it????plywood?? Kinda got the Bali look they reckon.
One thing though it makes damn good handles. plenty of weight and strength.

With the no. of laminations in that bowl good wood would've been a waste; it's not like the grain is obvious. It's the glue lines and the infill that are the real features. As I said, it looks good. :)

I know what you mean about it being a tool sharpening exercise; ply's forever blunting my BS & TS blades. Dunno that I'd want to take my lathe chisels anywhere near it! But with pix like that I'm almost tempted...

hughie
19th March 2006, 05:11 PM
[/QUOTE]I know what you mean about it being a tool sharpening exercise; ply's forever blunting my BS & TS blades. Dunno that I'd want to take my lathe chisels anywhere near it! But with pix like that I'm almost tempted...[/quote]

Skew, I f you have a look at the link

http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/showthread.php?t=29221

it shows what I used. Its M2 or Cobalt round tool steel that can be got from an eng. suppy out fit

hughie

macca2
19th March 2006, 06:10 PM
Hughie
This a bowl made from a similar laminated beam. Sure is tough on tools.

macca

hughie
21st March 2006, 12:04 AM
Hi Macca,

Looks good, although for some reason or another could not open the darn attachment???
But the plywood as common as it is, it makes a different bowl. I used mine as I had nothing else on hand ready for turning. Glad I am not the only one playing around with this type.
hughie

macca2
21st March 2006, 11:03 AM
Hi Hughie...this is another early play with a laminated beam.
Same problem with the tools. It seems to be the adhesive used.
Macca

hughie
21st March 2006, 12:07 PM
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quote=macca2]Hi Hughie...this is another early play with a laminated beam.
Same problem with the tools. It seems to be the adhesive used.
Macca
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Macca I think your right as this stuff is pine and it should turn ok. Made a cookie jar [10"x5" ] for the grandson out of the same stuff. Had to use the laminated pine for lid as I had run out of plywood. Came out alright although had to let air for several weeks to let the sealing smell fade away. I used a wipe on poly to finish the inside and shellawax for the out side.
hughie

macca2
21st March 2006, 02:25 PM
Very nice........has a basket weave look about it and the different lid is affective...
Good one
Macca

Skew ChiDAMN!!
21st March 2006, 04:51 PM
Yes, the lid enhances the basket weave effect. I could almost imagine an Indian Cobra dancing in it!

I'd send a greenie Hughie but it appears, in the words of another on this board, "I gotta spread the love around first."