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lubbing5cherubs
2nd October 2006, 06:43 PM
Hi I have managed to get myself a huge Mango tree that is going to be cut down. It is that round that my brother and his wife cannot put there arm around it. I have been given the wood from this tree. We have a fellow that is going to cut it down for me and he is going to slab it for me. and he is going to keep me some 6" bowl blanks too. So wood is going to plentiful but now my question are What do you do preserve the tree so it don't crack? What then do I do with the tree?
Toni

Cliff Rogers
2nd October 2006, 07:47 PM
Seal the end grain with log end sealer or water based paint as soon as possible.
Rough out your bowls as soon as possible.

When I get some mango, I hack it into bowl blanks as quick as I can & throw as much as I can into a tub of water.
I then go flat out roughing it & then throw it back into to tub of water.
I change the water when ever it gets dark.
Once I have washed out as much sap as I can, then I stuff the best bits into plastic bags & store as much as I can in the freezer or fridge.
Anything that won't fit in the freezer of fridge doesn't go into plactic bags, instead I store it in a cool dry place.
The main reason that I wash the mango is to try to get the sap out to stop it from going mouldy.
Some mould on mango can be pretty but mostly it isn't.
You won't have the same mould problems in Winton that I have up here.
You may even have to seal your roughed turnings to stop it from cracking.

Cliff Rogers
2nd October 2006, 07:54 PM
That was a turner's view.

You can seal the ends of the slabs & stack them flat with even width 'stickers' spacers crossways about every 300 or 400 mm (demending on how thin the slabs are) & then allow 1 year per 1 inch of thickness [plus a bit in a wet climate] to dry. IE, 2" (50mm slab) should be dry enough to work after 2 years out there.

Mango makes good bar tops, bench tops, bench seats etc.
It is usually a very pale timber & can ge some interesting mould stain through it (I don't like the mould stain) & if it is a very old tree, can have some darker more interesting grain around the forks & branchs.

lubbing5cherubs
2nd October 2006, 08:37 PM
Thanks Cliff
Toni

Skew ChiDAMN!!
2nd October 2006, 08:43 PM
Good score, Toni!

I've only tried a couple of pieces Mango and even then 'twas commercial, predried blanks. It's not that common down here in the cold, dark, south. :(

tashammer
2nd October 2006, 08:57 PM
keeping the fruit in mind, are there any problems with people trying to gnaw on the wood?

powderpost
2nd October 2006, 09:48 PM
Toni, I have used a lot of mango timber and found that it will rot from the inside if left in the round. The other major problem is wood eating beetles . Auger beetles will bore quite large holes (6mm diameter), lyctus will attack the sap wood and anobium beetles have a distinct black lining to the holes. I would recommend slabbing into boards from 28mm up to about 100mm depending what you intend to do with it. As Cliff said, seal the ends with a wax emulsion, or, two or three coats of a water based paint, and stack it with 25mm square strips between each layer. As much as I dislike chemicals, I spray the wood with lorsban to keep the insects at bay. Lorsban was recommended by a friend who is an entomoligist. Rather than go through the air drying process here, do a google on "air drying timber". I have about fifty, twenty year old mango trees in my front yard with a very shaky future. :)
Jim

lubbing5cherubs
2nd October 2006, 11:08 PM
Thank you for that Jim.
Toni

TTIT
3rd October 2006, 12:15 AM
You won't have the same mould problems in Winton that I have up here.

If only Cliff !!!:eek: Rough turned a mango chunk today that I cut just 4 weeks ago and there is green mould/stain from the bark to about an 30mm deep already :mad:. Thought it would be safe as houses out here in the dry air but proven wrong again!:( Fair bit of cracking too, even with the end grain sealed with Mobilcer. Glad I didn't worry about getting the whole tree now - seems like too much muckin' about! :D

lubbing5cherubs
3rd October 2006, 12:18 AM
Bummer don't tell me that, she be coming into dry heat alright
Toni

rowie
3rd October 2006, 12:59 AM
As Cliff said, two or three coats of a water based paint
Hi Toni, I would use oil based or rubberised paint(used on shipping containers)on the slabs and parrafin wax on your bowl blanks;)
Paint the end grain +2" around the ends of the boards and any figured grain.
Do you have an old electric frying pan:confused: :rolleyes: :p;) :cool: :) :D

hughie
3rd October 2006, 09:27 AM
Hi I have managed to get myself a huge Mango tree that is going to be cut down. It is that round that my brother and his wife cannot put there arm around it. I have been given the wood from this tree. We have a fellow that is going to cut it down for me and he is going to slab it for me. and he is going to keep me some 6" bowl blanks too. So wood is going to plentiful but now my question are What do you do preserve the tree so it don't crack? What then do I do with the tree?



Nice one Toni,.............sigh, what a great problem to have

OGYT
3rd October 2006, 12:15 PM
It's not that common down here in the cold, dark, south. :(

Skew, I been wantin' to go to Australia for about 45 years, now. :p That's another thing to think about Oz. Colder down South... Warmer up North. :eek: Down under surely is intriguing. :D

hughie
3rd October 2006, 12:56 PM
:D
:D
, I been wantin' to go to Australia for about 45 years, now. :p That's another thing to think about Oz. Colder down South... Warmer up North. :eek: Down under surely is intriguing. :D
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Nah!

its you guys who have it all wrong. Christmas is supposed to be hot :D

Skew comes from further south where the weather can be a tad cooler...mmm changeable too......

Ya can ski in the south and eat coconuts in the north and not fall off so down under must be on top....;) :D and Santa Claus wears thongs and owns a Eski.....:D :D :D

lubbing5cherubs
3rd October 2006, 01:01 PM
hughie next you be telling and delivers with 6 snow white boomers..LOL
Toni

hughie
3rd October 2006, 01:02 PM
That's another thing to think about Oz. Colder down South... Warmer up North. :eek: Down under surely is intriguing. :D
:p
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nah!
Its you guys who have it wrong....Christmas is supposed to be hot..;) :D

Ya can eat coconuts in the north and ski in the south. Santa wears thongs and carries an Eski :D :D :D :D Seeing we dont fall off , we must be on top :p :D :D ho ho ho.

Skew ChiDAMN!!
3rd October 2006, 04:23 PM
hughie next you be telling and delivers with 6 snow white boomers..LOL

Ahhh... those were the days. But no, we can't tell him that. Nowadays, what with governmental funding cutbacks and increasing overheads (those elves really screwed Santy over when it came time to renegotiate their contracts. As we all know, Santy's a big softy with no head for business. [sigh]) he's down to only three snow white boomers.

Roo-dolph is still leading the way though. :)

TTIT
4th October 2006, 12:53 AM
Ahhh... those were the days. But no, we can't tell him that. Nowadays, what with governmental funding cutbacks and increasing overheads (those elves really screwed Santy over when it came time to renegotiate their contracts. As we all know, Santy's a big softy with no head for business. [sigh]) he's down to only three snow white boomers.

Roo-dolph is still leading the way though. :)
I heard they were going to outsource the other boomers from a Bombay call-centre and let them in on work visas!!!:eek::eek::eek::eek::D

sea dragon
4th October 2006, 05:08 PM
And as an alternative to Snow White, you can have Bushfire Blackened Boomers or, to avoid hijacking the thread, Mango Moulded Boomers. :D
The Jumbucks merely stand around looking daggy because they were overlooked. :)

tashammer
4th October 2006, 05:19 PM
and every now and again doing a mexican wave of disgruntled dags with the attendant rattling.

Gil Jones
5th October 2006, 08:40 AM
What are "snow white boomers"? :)

lubbing5cherubs
5th October 2006, 09:11 AM
What are "snow white boomers"? :)


Gil it means 6 snow white kangaroos.. :D

Rookie
5th October 2006, 12:32 PM
Gil it means 6 snow white kangaroos.. :D

Very rare Gil. Rarer than the white Rhino. You only get snow white kangaroos now on a small peninsular of land that stretches south off the middle of the Bight. In the early 1940's they were all but obliterated when the government relocated a large community of Bunyips away from the atomic testing grounds at Maralinga. It appears the Bunyips mutated a little after early atomic testing and now the Bunyips, as we are all aware, are a natrual predator of the "snowy". It's all on the web.

Gil Jones
5th October 2006, 01:38 PM
Cool, that I would like to see (Bunyips too).
Thanks Toni and Rookie!

Skew ChiDAMN!!
5th October 2006, 04:23 PM
Both yer legs still the same length, Gil? ;)

Rookie
5th October 2006, 04:39 PM
Interesting thing about the Bunyip of course, is because of the relocation to the Bunggara Peninsula off the Bight there, they developed that slightly longer rear left leg of theirs because of the way they had to traverse the peninsular. Hence the saying "Rounder than a Bunyip's racetrack", the racetrack of course referring to the worn circular track on the peninsular around which they walked.

Not many people know that. They think the saying comes from the little round lumps all down their spine, known as razorbacks, or "Rounder than a Bunyips razorback".

Interesting. It's all on the web

Rookie
5th October 2006, 04:40 PM
Sorry to hijack the post a bit Toni but I find Australian nature fascinating sometimes. :rolleyes:

Now back on topic you lot.

tashammer
5th October 2006, 05:28 PM
How wonderful, another yarn spinner. Young John, i read your revelations of Natural Australia with great delight and glee. Well done that Man. Live long and prosper.

Rookie
5th October 2006, 06:00 PM
How wonderful, another yarn spinner. Young John, i read your revelations of Natural Australia with great delight and glee. Well done that Man. Live long and prosper.

Yarns! Yarns!! Let me tell Gil, our fine friend from Texas, why Tasmanians think anything to do with animal extinctions are "yarns" and "campfire stories" and such.
When Captain Phillip brought the convicts to Australia in the late 1700's they would ship from Tasmania, Tasmanian Devils, cute misnamed furry animals, by the hundreds, to feed the convicts and the guards (or "Braids" as they were know because of the braid on their hats and lapels) who watched over them. Tasmanians were quite happy to do this as it meant a lot of income for the poor tree covered state in which they lived. They shipped these poor animals in such numbers that they eventually ran out. The only other primary produce of Tasmania, lufer beans, were then sent in their place. Lufer beans were hardy a substitute for the much sought after Tassy Devil and in fact were ingestible by the "Braids" and officers due to some inability of English gentry to digest fibrous foods. Captain Phillip himself was recorded as having made at least one trip across Bass Strate (or Straight as the English spelt it) to complain to the powers that be, that lufer beans were no substitute, their guards were dying from starvation and there were so few beans available that they had to ration them out very carefully to the prisoners.

This brought the now famous dismissive comment from the Tassy officials that " half a lufer is better than no braids at all".

The rest is well known aussie history of course. The guards and officers all died off and the convicts survived and populated the country, all because of the greed of the Tasmanians and the dismissive attitude to Captain Phillips brave men.

And that's why Tasmanians have been in extinction denial ever since. Time to rewrite the tassy schoolbooks Tashammer old son.

Interesting stuff really. It's all on the web

Rookie
5th October 2006, 06:05 PM
Sorry again Toni :(

tashammer
5th October 2006, 06:11 PM
more please (and it's Strait).

Rookie
5th October 2006, 06:15 PM
more please (and it's Strait).

Well yes, it's spelt "strait" now. Not back then though. The original word "strayte" came from the Aztec word for "without ankles" referring to their older women who...... never mind.

No more I think. Any more and our Texan friend will start thinking it's all just "yarns".

tashammer
6th October 2006, 12:11 AM
no Rookie, i don't think there is any chance as you said...it says so on the web.

But i think that was just a bit mean of you or did you forget to tell him about the specialist search techniques that you need to dig out the more arcane types of information not to mention the type of search engine required. People forget that Google is just a general purpose search engine and that there are literally 100's more to choose from. i recall you discoursing upon that very fact some time back.

It's quite amazing what can be found out on these forums.

lubbing5cherubs
6th October 2006, 12:12 AM
Sorry again Toni :(
Don't be.. go for it. Don't mind hijackers..LOL:D
Toni

tashammer
6th October 2006, 12:20 AM
oops, sorry Toni, didn't mean to encourage him. But you know he is a mine of hard to find information about Australia.

i don't know why he wont publish a book about it. He could sell it over the internet and it would really help folks from overseas learn a lot about Australia and Australians.

i liked it when he used to talk about his adventures in the thick forests of far south western Queensland near the NSW border and all the wild life he saw there and some of the rare trees he was looking for after they found that surviving coupe of prehistoric pine trees. Now THAT was interesting. He sounded just like a professorial Bushtuckerman.

Cliff Rogers
6th October 2006, 12:26 AM
...i don't know why he wont publish a book about it. ......
I suspect he forgets it before he can write it down. :D

Gil Jones
6th October 2006, 05:49 AM
Rookie, thanks for all of that interesting information, whether they be tails, yarns, or true adventures, I like them all. (And both of my legs are still the same length; they do not pull too easily).
As for your Texan friend Al, well, Al still lives a bit west of the Red River in Texas.
I, on the other hand, live in the far southwest corner of Georgia, on Lake Seminole. http://paddletales.blogspot.com/2005/10/lake-seminole.html where we have good fishing, duck hunting, and alligator hunting (I caught one while fishing off our dock).
Gil:) :D

Cliff Rogers
6th October 2006, 10:09 AM
....alligator hunting (I caught one while fishing off our dock).
Gil:) :D

Sneaky bugga, what was he using for bait? :p

Rookie
6th October 2006, 10:48 AM
Aah yes, Georgia, and Al would be the guy sitting in Texas watching me blow that one. (to "blow" something in Australia more often than not means to mess it up, not the other thing). Got me.

There are however many other seemingly improbable yet always true stories of early Australia which I will endeavour to relate from time to time.

Georgia, nice place. I have been to Atlanta many times and seen much of the north of the state, but I suspect, and hope, that your area is much prettier.

Gil Jones
6th October 2006, 01:44 PM
Cliff, just a snare around its head, then a shot in the neck. They do like chicken.
Rookie, same meanings here. We are 394 km south of Atlanta. It is nice here, but too many insects in the summer.
Sorry, Toni, we should start another thread, and stop pestering yours. I would love to float some of that Mango tree up here.
Gil

tashammer
6th October 2006, 02:29 PM
Gil
does this mean go get free shoes, boots, belts, purses, even vests or weskits, necklaces from your pond dwellers?

Cliff Rogers
6th October 2006, 03:16 PM
...alligator hunting (I caught one while fishing off our dock).


Sneaky bugga, what was he using for bait? :p


Cliff, just a snare around its head, then a shot in the neck. They do like chicken.....
Wizz, straight through to the keeper......:p

I meant 'the sneaky gator was sitting on your dock fishing & you busted him' :D

Jackson
7th October 2006, 08:02 PM
Cliff

I've never heard of the water thingy - do you keep the pieces immersed and does that cause the sap to leach out?

MJ

Cliff Rogers
8th October 2006, 10:34 AM
Yeap, & change the water often.
I use a big washtub in the laundry.
When the water hardly changes colour at all, you know you have gotten rid of most of the free sap.

If you have the time & space, once you get to that stage, stick them in a plastic bag & freeze them for a couple of days & then wash them again.

You will end up with a paler piece but it is also less likely to go mouldy.

OGYT
8th October 2006, 11:36 AM
John, a Rookie you're not. :o I also like the yarns or tales or true adventures. Whatever they are, makes no difference to me. That's okay if I get a leg pulled once in a while. My Sweet and I have laughed our fannies off reading these posts.
Back on Track now: Cliff, did you ever think of using soap in that water? Well... it might work.... ;o)
Back off track: What's a Bunyip?

Rookie
8th October 2006, 12:02 PM
Showing unbelievable will power and resisting a huge temptation to start myself off again.......... here's (http://home.iprimus.com.au/gunnado/bunyip.html) a link to start you off

Cliff Rogers
8th October 2006, 03:09 PM
Haven't tried the soap.

Bunyip comes up in a Google search.

http://home.iprimus.com.au/gunnado/bunyip.html

http://www.nla.gov.au/exhibitions/bunyips/

http://users.chariot.net.au/~kwray/htm/bunyip.html

http://www.didgeridoos.net.au/dreamtime%20stories/frog_bunyip.htm

tashammer
8th October 2006, 03:35 PM
My Sweet and I have laughed our fannies off reading these posts.

Ermm, a "fanny" over here is not the same as a "fanny" over there.

Over there it means donkey or ass. So "satchel fannied" refers to the shape of your donkey (or ass). We tend to say #### which has more grit about it than ass which is less robust.

Over here it refers to the "front bottom" not the back one.

So if a man says he laughs his fanny off it can cause a severe mental wrench in folks minds over here.

Yogi Rasi
8th October 2006, 04:50 PM
Skew, I been wantin' to go to Australia for about 45 years, now. :p That's another thing to think about Oz. Colder down South... Warmer up North. :eek: Down under surely is intriguing. :D

Al, There's sooo much to learn. Firstly there's the language, like nothing else on earth. Then there's the sense of humour, Mate, you'll need another 45 years to handle this lot.:confused: Stick with this forum and we'll teach you. Just one word from an older Australian, I'm a bloke not a guy.

Yogi - Oh yes, by the way, we are also big on illogical (unless you're Australian) nick names.:D

Skew ChiDAMN!!
8th October 2006, 06:50 PM
Yogi - Oh yes, by the way, we are also big on illogical (unless you're Australian) nick names.:D

:confused: What's so illogical about calling a red-head "Blue" or a shortarse "Stretch"?

I mean the Yanks do the same thing... they call their ladyfolk "Honey" or "Sweetness" or... :D:D

tashammer
8th October 2006, 10:36 PM
how odd, when i typed ####, someone substituted #### and when Skewy type shortarse nothing happened. Is there an automatic script running?

Hmm, well it changed itself. so i guess that answers me question.

Skew ChiDAMN!!
8th October 2006, 11:01 PM
how odd, when i typed ####, someone substituted #### and when Skewy type shortarse nothing happened. Is there an automatic script running?

Yeah mate. I tend to rely on the built-in censor to keep me out of trouble... it's a bit of a bugger when it falls over like that. Hopefully the moral puritans out there won't report me to the thought police for my putting in text the idioms with which I speak. :rolleyes:

tashammer
9th October 2006, 01:26 AM
i wonder what it would do if i typed #### - wonder if it might change to a "wude word". Still this is an all age board and children son't swear when they hit their fingers, do they?

OGYT
9th October 2006, 01:42 PM
My Sweet and I have laughed our butts :eek: off reading these posts. Definately don't want to cause any 'severe mental wrenches'!!!:D :D


We tend to say #### which has more grit about it than ass which is less robust.
Couldn't edit my previous post, which I quoted, so I changed it here.:D :D


Firstly there's the language, like nothing else on earth. Then there's the sense of humour, Mate, you'll need another 45 years to handle this lot.:confused: Stick with this forum and we'll teach you. Just one word from an older Australian, I'm a bloke not a guy.

I'm gettin' slow in my lernin', bloke, but I guess some things come easier than others.:D
You Blokes are killin' me!:D :D :D :D