Sharpening

[niki]

G'day mates

I would like to share with you my sharpening method

I don't use hand tools so much and I don't like to spend long time on the sharpening stones (I have all the "army" from 600 to 8000).

The sanding paper idea is not new, I go up to #600 and for me it's more than enough but you can go with higher numbers.

To save some time, you can change the sanding belt up to #240

niki


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[niki]

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[jmk89]

Niki

That's a good looking set-up. Can you post a link to the supplier of the honing gauge that you have - it looks better than the Eclipse/Torquata model that is standard here. I especially like the wide roller and the "protractor".

Cheers

Jeremy

[silentC]

I thought these (http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=51868&cat=1,43072,43078&ap=1)were standard here :)

[derekcohen]

Hi Niki

Some nice ideas there.

When grinding the bevel on the belt sander, why do you face the bevel away from the direction of turn?

I have done something similar, but face the bevel into the turning belt. I find that there is less likelihood of the bevel/blade lifting. With a jig I have never had one dig into the belt, if this is a concern.

Here I am using an Eclipse honing guide (I am experimenting with a LV Mk II guide at present to see how well the brass wheels hold up. I think that the key lies in how smoothly/freely they turn):

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I agree on the 120 grit for grinding.

Regards from Perth

Derek

[silentC]

I do my bevel grinding on a horizontal grinder I made. The rest for it is parallel to the wheel, so I can rest the roller of my LV MKII on that and present the blade to the wheel without worrying about damaging the roller.

I set the blade registration jig to 30 degrees on the red setting, but I put the jig on the yellow setting. This gives me a bevel of around 20 degrees (this one isn't important) for the main grinding, which I do on the horizontal wheel, as described above. Then I change the jig to the red setting, giving me 30 degrees, which I then take to the stones. This way I don't have to remove the chisel from the jig in between.

I wonder if you could create a platform to rest the roller on that is parallel to the belt? I think that regardless of what you do, running the roller on the belt like that is eventually going to wear it, even if it is only the shaft or the bearings in the roller.

[jmk89]

I thought these (http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=51868&cat=1,43072,43078&ap=1)were standard here :)

Look at Derek's post - if that's a Veritas, I'll go hopping to hell.

I reckon less than 50% of the people who sharpen chisels in Oz have a MkII, but most have a gauge like the one in Derek's photo!!!

PS Derek - i also use a belt sander (except I use the WASP on a steel base instead of a belt sander, but it's much the same) - I have the belt run from back to front of the bevel. I find that it stops the edge burrowiing into the belt and it makes a wire that I can hone off. But, as you know, sharpening is one of those things where rational people can reasonably disagree!!!

[silentC]

I've got two of them :)

I don't use them any more though...

I'm pretty sure you'll find Derek has a MKII though. The picture shows you how highly he regards his Eclipse :wink:

[niki]

Jeremy
I bought it in Japan some 10 years ago.
The only thing that I found is this "kakuri" (see pics)
Maybe our friends in Japan can find the address.

SilentC
You guys have some high standard there...:)

Derek
I was afraid of "Kickback" so I preferred to go "with" the belt

niki

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[Hangfire]

not sure why, but trying to open up these images i just get an error message to talk to an admin... cant see any of them.

[China]

AS above images appear to be broken

[D.W.]

not sure why, but trying to open up these images i just get an error message to talk to an admin... cant see any of them.

They're on an image hosting site and linked 15 years ago. Those sites only keep image links current for a short period of time and some of the sites go from free to pay and they drop files of people who don't have paying memberships.

[Chris Parks]

Unfortunately Niki passed away some years ago. He was a very inventive man who was always looking at ways to do things a little better.

[D.W.]

Rest in peace, Niki. The guys looking to do something a little different are the ones who spice the forums up and make things interesting.

[China]

That is what I get for not checking the date!

[Hangfire]

Me too, I thought it was a reply to my own thread.... observation skills -15