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Stu in Tokyo
19th March 2008, 05:04 PM
I know I've not been around much, what have I missed :D

I have a whole bunch of smaller chunks of wood I got recently, from the shrine down the street, it is all green wood, but I noticed that some of them were starting to crack a bit, so I thought I'd best get moving on roughing them out.

I've got it down to just a little over 10 minutes each from chunk of wood, to slipping it into the DNA bath.....

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I start with a chunk of wood

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Mount it via the worm screw on the chuck

69565
Get out my super flute beating stick and have at,
this is done mostly at about 1000 RPM or higher, as the faster the cut the less time it takes to do....

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Bang, outside done!

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Boom, inside done

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Ready for a DNA bath!

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While it may be quick, it still makes a mess!

I did about 20 last night and I'll be doing a bunch more today, I know they are not fine works of art etc, but they are certainly good practice. I also did some in the reverse orientation, so they came out as Natural Edge bowls.

I hope to be able to give some away, and maybe even sell some

My lovely wife said something about not using the snazzy new HDD video camera we got lately, so I had to put it to use.........
Quick Green Wood Rough Out Part One<<

Quick Green Wood Rough Out Part Two <<

Both link to YouTube videos.

Cheers!

killerbeast
19th March 2008, 06:08 PM
As always i enjoy your work, videos and pictures..

ss_11000
19th March 2008, 08:44 PM
nice videos stu

Sawdust Maker
19th March 2008, 09:37 PM
Nice work Stu
Now I know what to attempt with the small log (branch) I collected from my son's school.
Thanks for adding to my knowledge store. It's always good to see how others do a particular task
thanks again:2tsup:

Stu in Tokyo
19th March 2008, 11:18 PM
Thanks guys!

I've made new videos, the lighting on the first two is just BAD :doh: so I'll post those when they finish uploading to YouTube

Cheers!

Harry72
19th March 2008, 11:43 PM
Onya Stu!

Stu in Tokyo
20th March 2008, 12:49 AM
OK the new better lit videos are now posted, I replaced the harshly lit ones.

Cheers! :)

artme
20th March 2008, 07:58 AM
Well done Stu!:2tsup::2tsup::2tsup:

mugwoody
20th March 2008, 10:11 AM
:2tsup:

As always Stu informative entertaining and great presentation.

Thanks for so much enjoyable input and sharing.

Peter

Stu in Tokyo
21st March 2008, 12:59 AM
Thanks for the kind responses!

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Here are some of the smaller NE rough outs just out of the DNA bath, I think I have over 30 wrapped up drying now.....

I also got into the Keyaki haul I had at about the same time, from one smaller log, I got these........
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I have to say, this wet (18% moisture content) Keyaki sure turns nice! :crutch:

Cheers!

Tankstand
21st March 2008, 10:14 AM
Thanks Stu! Excellent vids,

Might have to get myself a Nova soon! Getting mighty tired manual speed changes.

coffenup
21st March 2008, 09:45 PM
thanks Stu
you give us learners a thing to aim at in the future
love the videos
regards Michael :2tsup:

Sawdust Maker
21st March 2008, 10:00 PM
OK the new better lit videos are now posted, I replaced the harshly lit ones.

Cheers! :)


You were just making us look at your work twice:! :D:D:D
even better the second time around

rsser
23rd March 2008, 04:29 PM
Thanks Stu.

Looking forward to the finish turning vids.

Esp. how you remount to reprofile the outside ... jam chuck?

Stu in Tokyo
23rd March 2008, 06:52 PM
Thanks Stu.

Looking forward to the finish turning vids.

Esp. how you remount to reprofile the outside ... jam chuck?

Thanks!

I plan on using my vacuum rig, dead easy and quick too! :2tsup:

Hardenfast
23rd March 2008, 07:00 PM
Good to see you back Stu. Excellent stuff as usual - most informative and much appreciated.

Man, you don't muck around with subtleties, do you? Crank it up to warp speed and jam that big gouge right in there! Most impressive! Your points about safety and working within your own limitations are well made. Putting the chuck screw in under power and your agressive hollowing are done in perfect control and completely within your own comfort zone. As you say others may not have this level of expertise or comfort, and to each his own. Personally, I think your techniques are something to aspire to - as my own experience & confidence permits. I also need to get me a variable speed lathe - eventually!

I know I'm probably missing something very basic here, but what's a DNA bath? On the video you call it a (something....) alcohol bath, but I'm wondering what it actually is and what purpose it serves?

Wayne.

scooter
23rd March 2008, 08:32 PM
Wayne, it's DeNatured Alcohol, same as metho here I think.

It's a technique for drying rough turned items quicker than air drying & hopefully with minimal warping. Google it for lots of info.


Cheers..................Sean

Stu in Tokyo
24th March 2008, 02:30 AM
Thanks Sean!

yes, it is DeNatured Alcohol.

Here, read THIS (http://www.woodcentral.com/cgi-bin/readarticle.pl?dir=turning&file=articles_473.shtml) article by David Smith all you need to know about this useful technique.

I've yet to loose a roughed out bowl using this, and it does greatly reduce drying time, usually to under a month.

Cheers!

Harry72
24th March 2008, 07:50 AM
Wonder what would happen if you added a small amount of shellac to the DNA/Metho?
Mix it to the same ratio as a shellac sanding sealer.

Harry72
24th March 2008, 07:52 AM
Thanks Stu! Excellent vids,

Might have to get myself a Nova soon! Getting mighty tired manual speed changes.

Hey Tanky, your quite welcome to come and have a go on my Nova lathe.

rsser
24th March 2008, 08:02 AM
I plan on using my vacuum rig, dead easy and quick too!

Ah, OK ... 4" PVC pipe kind of thing?

Stu in Tokyo
24th March 2008, 07:29 PM
Yep, the PVC pipe on a MDF backing plate works fine.

I also make up stuff like this..........

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rsser
24th March 2008, 07:55 PM
Yeah, I use the foam on MDF thing too.

Not much good for nat edge stuff though.

Time for a trip to the plumbing supplies place.

steck
25th March 2008, 06:04 AM
Stu,
thanks for sharing!
I have just bought a lathe and appreciate the information I pick up on this forum.
Love the videos!

bowl-basher
25th March 2008, 07:09 PM
Stu
This is probably a stupid question but what is a DNA bath ????
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I have a whole bunch of smaller chunks of wood I got recently, from the shrine down the street, it is all green wood, but I noticed that some of them were starting to crack a bit, so I thought I'd best get moving on roughing them out.

I've got it down to just a little over 10 minutes each from chunk of wood, to slipping it into the DNA bath.....

http://www.woodworkforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=69563&thumb=1&d=1205907263 (http://www.woodworkforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=69563&d=1205907263)
I start with a chunk of wood

http://www.woodworkforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=69564&thumb=1&d=1205907263 (http://www.woodworkforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=69564&d=1205907263)
Mount it via the worm screw on the chuck

http://www.woodworkforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=69565&thumb=1&d=1205907263 (http://www.woodworkforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=69565&d=1205907263)
Get out my super flute beating stick and have at,
this is done mostly at about 1000 RPM or higher, as the faster the cut the less time it takes to do....

http://www.woodworkforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=69566&thumb=1&d=1205907263 (http://www.woodworkforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=69566&d=1205907263)
Bang, outside done!

http://www.woodworkforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=69567&thumb=1&d=1205907263 (http://www.woodworkforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=69567&d=1205907263)
Boom, inside done

http://www.woodworkforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=69568&thumb=1&d=1205907263 (http://www.woodworkforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=69568&d=1205907263)
Ready for a DNA bath!

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Stu in Tokyo
25th March 2008, 07:48 PM
Stu
This is probably a stupid question but what is a DNA bath ????
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<hr style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);" size="1"><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->I know I've not been around much, what have I missed :D

I have a whole bunch of smaller chunks of wood I got recently, from the shrine down the street, it is all green wood, but I noticed that some of them were starting to crack a bit, so I thought I'd best get moving on roughing them out.

I've got it down to just a little over 10 minutes each from chunk of wood, to slipping it into the DNA bath.....

http://www.woodworkforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=69563&thumb=1&d=1205907263 (http://www.woodworkforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=69563&d=1205907263)
I start with a chunk of wood

http://www.woodworkforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=69564&thumb=1&d=1205907263 (http://www.woodworkforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=69564&d=1205907263)
Mount it via the worm screw on the chuck

http://www.woodworkforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=69565&thumb=1&d=1205907263 (http://www.woodworkforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=69565&d=1205907263)
Get out my super flute beating stick and have at,
this is done mostly at about 1000 RPM or higher, as the faster the cut the less time it takes to do....

http://www.woodworkforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=69566&thumb=1&d=1205907263 (http://www.woodworkforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=69566&d=1205907263)
Bang, outside done!

http://www.woodworkforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=69567&thumb=1&d=1205907263 (http://www.woodworkforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=69567&d=1205907263)
Boom, inside done

http://www.woodworkforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=69568&thumb=1&d=1205907263 (http://www.woodworkforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=69568&d=1205907263)
Ready for a DNA bath!

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Hey BB,

It is DeNatured Alcohol.

Here, read THIS (http://www.woodcentral.com/cgi-bin/readarticle.pl?dir=turning&file=articles_473.shtml) article by David Smith all you need to know about this useful technique.

scooter
25th March 2008, 08:00 PM
Bowl basher, see posts 17 & 18 above.


Cheers...................Sean