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wheelinround
30th Dec 2008, 04:33 PM
I got a pm a while ago fro Shredder :no: hadn't known the name before

anyway he sent me this link (http://s150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/dattwood/?mediafilter=images) I am told its his work all done by hand operate equipment some exception works over 3 pages worth.

Well done Shredder looking forward to a post on this forum of your gear and works.


Ray

lubbing5cherubs
30th Dec 2008, 04:44 PM
I agree with Ray, it would be nice to meet the man doing all the work that is awesome
bye Toni

artme
30th Dec 2008, 08:40 PM
Great work there!:2tsup::2tsup::2tsup:

All of it really shows the value of using plain gained timber for OT.

shredder
2nd Jan 2009, 11:21 AM
Ray, I'm sure I said all the work in the link I turned free hand :o using a simple tool and cutters which I made , the tool is held in a similar way as you would hold a bowl gouge, that's it as far as equiptment goes:o.

If you don't believe how the work has been done then please feel free to express your opinion or theory:rolleyes:

lubbing5cherubs
2nd Jan 2009, 11:30 PM
Shredder mate cool to see you replying. Still very impressive even more considering you are doing it with hand tools. Would love to see a picutre of some of your tools
bye Toni

wheelinround
3rd Jan 2009, 09:01 AM
Ray, I'm sure I said all the work in the link I turned free hand :o using a simple tool and cutters which I made , the tool is held in a similar way as you would hold a bowl gouge, that's it as far as equiptment goes:o.

If you don't believe how the work has been done then please feel free to express your opinion or theory:rolleyes:

Dean good to see you here welcome :2tsup: to the other side of the woodworking world.

I went fishing and got a bite :U glad you explained it to them here don't think they would have believed me if I had told them.

I am impressed with the works can't wait to see the way its done.:;

Ray

shredder
3rd Jan 2009, 10:33 AM
Would love to see a picutre of some of your tools
bye Toni

Toni, I've got some nice spanners and a few rare hammers if you want to see them:;:U

Ray/Toni, I'm sure you'll see the tool soon, thats all I can say at the moment:roll:
I'm still waiting for a bite Ray:;

Happy New Year by the way

Dean:)

lubbing5cherubs
3rd Jan 2009, 11:46 AM
nah they don't kind of do it for me so I will pass on the hammers and spanners but the tools that does that work that whole different matter. Hubby reckons it my new crush. :D LOL least he got some renovation
bye Toni

Skew ChiDAMN!!
3rd Jan 2009, 05:19 PM
So, where're the WIPs? :innocent:

lubbing5cherubs
4th Jan 2009, 10:23 AM
Good Point skew, I second it. LOL
Toni

shredder
4th Jan 2009, 10:59 AM
Good Point skew, I second it. LOL
Toni

Sorry Toni but I'm still working on the pics but I have to wait until the guy who's taking the pics is available:doh:

shredder
5th Jan 2009, 12:24 AM
OK hereís a simple one, this is a 65mm disk of end grain cherry held in the chuck, the lathe speed was 775rpm
This is the first cut which took about a minute.


http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/dattwood/firstcut.jpg

Iíve cleaned up the edge and the centre for the next cuts.

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/dattwood/secondcut.jpg

Changed the cutter and then cut the outside edge.

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/dattwood/thirdcut.jpg

Another quick change of the cutter to do the centre.

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/dattwood/forthcuts.jpg

Tidy up and cut in the lines with a small skew, I slipped and sliced the centre:doh:

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/dattwood/fifthcut.jpg

Cleaned up with a soft brass brush and wire wool, the finish could be much better with a bit more time spent on it and the wood was a little bit to soft as you can see from the small pieces that have broken away, you can also see how the grain can interfere with the pattern on the bottom left of the disk.
All the work was done in 10 minutes max.:)

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/dattwood/sixthcut.jpg

artme
5th Jan 2009, 06:36 PM
Welcome along for the ride Shredder!:2tsup::2tsup::2tsup:

That is, as i have said, wonderful work.

lubbing5cherubs
5th Jan 2009, 07:50 PM
beautiful but where a piccy of the tool or lathe doing hte work like this or is that top secret that after we see it will you have to shoot us all??? :D
bye Toni

wheelinround
6th Jan 2009, 08:42 AM
Gee Dean it takes us usually 15 minutes to set up the Rose Engine let alone do the cuts that work is amazing :2tsup:

I would be interested I can tell you that for sure what are expected costs of the tool/set up???

Looking at it so far it's all face work, will it do between centres such as on finial's sides of cylinders/lidded boxes.

Ray

shredder
7th Jan 2009, 11:53 AM
I would be interested I can tell you that for sure what are expected costs of the tool/set up???

Ray, the price for the whole set up was going to be around £60 uk.

Looking at it so far it's all face work, will it do between centres such as on finial's sides of cylinders/lidded boxes.

Ray

Ray, it's a hand tool for use on end grain:doh: it's not a machine.
The idea of tool was to be a quick and simple way to add a little decoration which anyone who enjoys turning could achieve regardless of experience, you could make your designs as simple or as difficult as you want, some of the effects/cuts are very challenging but most are simple and it does get easier with practice, the same as anything else new.

If you sell your turning work at craft fairs or such, what price do get for a small plain bowls,boxes, dishes or bottle stoppers?

How much extra would you get if the items had a little decoration that only took you minute to achieve?:roll:

How much more rewarding would it be as a complete novice if you were able to add simple but very effective decoration to your first pieces of work?:)

wheelinround
7th Jan 2009, 05:20 PM
So Dean you mean like Robert Sorby's new Micro system (http://www.robert-sorby.co.uk/microtoolsystem.htm) spiralling tools

neat system :rolleyes: and micro at that :2tsup:

shredder
7th Jan 2009, 09:08 PM
So Dean you mean like Robert Sorby's new Micro system (http://www.robert-sorby.co.uk/microtoolsystem.htm) spiralling tools

neat system :rolleyes: and micro at that :2tsup:

A bite at last:roll: thanks Ray

wheelinround
7th Jan 2009, 09:11 PM
:D I do read what others say in other forums Dean.

oh and I have seen RS's larger brother used on spindle turning so why not yours or their smaller one.

shredder
7th Jan 2009, 11:46 PM
:D I do read what others say in other forums Dean.

Link please Ray, I've seen nothing :?




oh and I have seen RS's larger brother used on spindle turning so why not yours or their smaller one.

Could it be because the two RS's tools and my tool work in completely different ways, both give different effects and both use different cutters, both are seperate in disign and looks so what I would like to know is WHO said it's a copy of the RS tool?:2tsup:

It's all history now anyway, you live and learn:)

wheelinround
8th Jan 2009, 08:11 AM
think you mentioned it actually Dean in the past elsewhere

Ok so I take it a patent is being sort or is it some other reason no one can see the tools yet.

keep us informed :2tsup:

Skew ChiDAMN!!
8th Jan 2009, 10:04 AM
:doh:

When you mentioned hand tools and hammer ion the same sentence I assumed it was done with the lathe turned OFF. I was imagining something along the lines of a compass with a cutting edge and wondering at your precision...

wheelinround
8th Jan 2009, 04:58 PM
Shredder where's the photo's gone

I even tried to go to the photobucket site you sent me :no:

Ray

shredder
9th Jan 2009, 11:59 AM
Shredder where's the photo's gone

I even tried to go to the photobucket site you sent me :no:

Ray


Don't know what you mean Ray:? I can still see them, maybe it's cookies or something on your PC

munruben
9th Jan 2009, 12:16 PM
Don't know what you mean Ray:? I can still see them, maybe it's cookies or something on your PCI am not seeing the picture either, Just see boxes with message that dvd or picture has been moved or deleted.

lubbing5cherubs
9th Jan 2009, 08:21 PM
that's odd they were beautiful wonder what going on. Shredder mate you still with us, OK?
Toni

Skew ChiDAMN!!
10th Jan 2009, 01:29 AM
Looks like the account has been passworded, so we can't get in?

wheelinround
10th Jan 2009, 09:38 AM
Skew I have found this within other forums also so maybe a phissbucket problem :~

Woodir49
5th Mar 2009, 01:39 PM
I would like to see the Pic. tool!

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