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    The next video in the series is going to be one on how to make timber box hinges. I hope you can understand Canadian.
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    Haven't used it in a while, but I think the safepeer plugin for azureus is fairly essential. Keeps out the nasties.
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    Once the download commences, let it run until you have the complete file. This is best done overnight. The speeds aren't great, generally 6-20kb/sec but it works. Some large file can take 24 hours but these 100MB files should be done in 3 or 4 hours.


    Hi Gumby, jus curious as to the download speed. 6-20kb/sec is that a normal broadband speed with 512, or doesn't it matter what speed you can download.
    I have 2000 broadband and can download 100mb in 10 mins, would i be restricted to 6-20kb/sec because of software?? Hope this makes sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thommo
    Once the download commences, let it run until you have the complete file. This is best done overnight. The speeds aren't great, generally 6-20kb/sec but it works. Some large file can take 24 hours but these 100MB files should be done in 3 or 4 hours.


    Hi Gumby, jus curious as to the download speed. 6-20kb/sec is that a normal broadband speed with 512, or doesn't it matter what speed you can download.
    I have 2000 broadband and can download 100mb in 10 mins, would i be restricted to 6-20kb/sec because of software?? Hope this makes sense

    Regards Thommo
    I'm on cable and get 300-400kb/s or more for some files but torrents go out at 20-30kb/s max. I have no idea why.
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    Thanks Gumby, was just curious, I will try to find out why just to satisfy my own curiosity

    Thanks Thommo

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    Gumby

    Having acsertained a certain level of interest, and assuming there are no IP issues, why don't you build a library of these CDs, market them on Echidna's site, charge $5 or so plus P&P and you can both make a quid.

    Downloading 350Mb and the requirement to morph into an IT geek nerd, doesn't fill me with enthuisiasm.
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    Completely defeats the purpose of what we are really trying to do. We want contributions from all and sundry, not discourage anyone because of a minimum level of quality, or for them to feel their contribution is making someone else money. I certainly won't go to the trouble of putting together any videos if it is just to profit someone else.

    There are plenty of commerical DVDs out there already on woodworking anyway.

    Someone may be willing to actually host the entire file, but server space is not cheap - just ask Neil. That is why a distributed network is a more viable solution. If you can't get the videos yourself, find a friend on the board who can download it and burn it to CD or DVD for you.

    We could make the files much smaller, but they would be virtually useless with the compression damage, and a smaller frame size would make them too hard to see.

    Some of us do work in IT for a job - mine is teaching non IT literate university staff how to use their computers, so thanks for the respect for our line of work. Just because we know how to use these tools doesn't mean we enjoy always being criticised for it. This seemed like a cool idea, and a way to help those new to woodworking (and those less new) with the tools at our disposal, and at no cost (other than time). Why do some just want to knock it?
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    I dont like them bit torrent programs, the last time I tried them I had nothing but trouble... killed my files, to me BT's are a hackers portal!
    Im all for the DVD idea instead, but we need someone who's willing to burn lots?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry72
    I dont like them bit torrent programs, the last time I tried them I had nothing but trouble... killed my files, to me BT's are a hackers portal!
    Im all for the DVD idea instead, but we need someone who's willing to burn lots?
    But you are not torrenting just any files from anywhere. These are specific files created by BB members for BB members
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodgy
    Gumby

    Having acsertained a certain level of interest, and assuming there are no IP issues, why don't you build a library of these CDs, market them on Echidna's site, charge $5 or so plus P&P and you can both make a quid.

    Downloading 350Mb and the requirement to morph into an IT geek nerd, doesn't fill me with enthuisiasm.
    That's fine and one reason I came up with the DVD idea in the first place was to help get copies to those with dialup who would have trouble downloading large files. That seems to have escaped some (not referring to you here Bodgy).

    The initial file is only 69MB and has gone out to many people already (suckers I've had up to 6 connections at one time tonight. Just imagine how many we'll get when we are able to release Neil's demo. :eek: The jointer project was more of a test than anything and done to give a bit of a start to the whole project. I think a few have gained some confidence by seeing that and thought it's pretty easy to do. The more contributions we get, even if they are only 5 minutes, the better it will be.

    Downloading and installing a torrent is easy (see the post by New Lou, he got it going fairly quickly from a fresh start). Once you've done this as a test, the rest will seem easy for you as well. No more nurdy than joining this forum.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry72
    I dont like them bit torrent programs, the last time I tried them I had nothing but trouble... killed my files, to me BT's are a hackers portal!
    Im all for the DVD idea instead, but we need someone who's willing to burn lots?
    Harry, I'm not here to convince anybody one way or another. If it's not for some, i couldn't care less. But I started learning about these on another forum and nobody there had problems. I haven't either. I've got anti virus, firewall, anti spam, anti phishing, anti spyware and everything else running. From the number of downloads already done, and no reported problems, i think it must be something at your end, rather than the torrent. Of course, you have to be careful what you download.
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    I dont agree entirely, but yes you do need to be careful. I download between 15 and 20 gig a month. I have never had a virus. Never been hacked and never had a bad download.

    I do however run spybot once a week and adaware twice a week these two find and delete cookies that are, in a basic description, 'entry' points for those who would be inclined to do bad things.

    So yes it has its downfalls but all in all it is a reasonably safe way to share files.

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    I downloaded the torrent of the jointer video tonight no problems. I have watched half of it already.(had to do other things). I feel it is a great way to distribute a file. I have used them before in the past with bit torrent and have never had a problem. Again i say waht others have. you just have to be careful of what you are downloading thats all. Run all the "Anti" stuff and you shouldnt have a problem. I have been downloading for years now and have never had a virus or anything seriously wrong happen.
    Thanks for the video

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    This is a brilliant idea, Gumby. I followed your instructions for downloading Azureus, and downloaded the jointer/thicknesser vid no problems.

    Trouble is, this is reason number 2 for me buying a DV camera. (Anyone recommend one for under $500?)

    I look forward to seeing others' contributions. I think the key is to follow Gumby's lead and make them really basic, and get the ideas out there. If and when I get a DV cam, I volunteer to do a video of marking and sawing a board to length using darkside methods.

    Oh, and a Greeny is on the way for Gumby.
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    Thumbs up Great idea followed through

    Well done Gumby on a great idea followed through.

    Im very basic when it comes to computers and i had no trouble downloading it (around 30min for me) and realy enjoyed it. The highlight was the search for the missing stained peice of timber
    Great stuff and cant wait for more to roll in

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    Well done Gumby.........brilliant effort!!!
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