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7th January 2018, 12:32 AM #1GOLD MEMBER
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What is 4 3/8 inch in real measurements?
If there's any archeologists out there who are experts in ancient measuring systems, are you able to tell me what is 4 3/8"?
My computer comes up with 111mm but I know they didn't have computers 100 years ago so I'm not sure the computer has that right.
This is so that I can make some custom inserts into a Rockler aluminium router insert that I bought from a dark remote isolated place in the world. So isolated dark and remote that it's the only place that is not metric. Yes I know it's impossible that such a place exists and yet it turns out it does. And no, as remote and isolated as it was, I didn't see any Yeti while I was there. Although there might have been some Neanderthals. I didn't hang around long enough to be sure.
But that would explain the ancient measuring systems.
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7th January 2018, 12:40 AM #2GOLD MEMBER
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111.125mm = 35 eighths of an inch.
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7th January 2018, 01:00 AM #3
Just to add for future reference:
1" = 25.4mm
1/8" = 3.175mm
1/16" = 1.5875mm
Now it's an addition problem And Kuffy, of course, is spot on the money
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7th January 2018, 01:32 AM #4
There is an upside of unmetricated areas. You need twice the number of spanners and sockets, not infrequently need both metric and inch measuring tools such as squares and of course at least twice as many hammers.
Innovations are those useful things that, by dint of chance, manage to survive the stupidity and destructive tendencies inherent in human nature.
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7th January 2018, 03:06 AM #5China
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I don't understand just measure the item in what ever convention you want and make accordingly
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7th January 2018, 07:21 AM #6
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7th January 2018, 08:07 AM #7GOLD MEMBER
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Or at least a Bakers dozen
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7th January 2018, 08:32 AM #8GOLD MEMBER
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Unfortunately he has no choice in the matter, he's working with something that has been made to imperial measurements. I've often pondered over the apparent difficulty people have with imperial, particularly when using my 1/2" collet router to cut some box joints with an imperial bit because a metric one isn't available.
I'm only 13 years older than DaveVman and come from a time that allows me to work quite happily in both so maybe the system isn't quite as ancient as his initial post would indicate. Perhaps it would be less of a problem if, when we run up against these minor inconveniences, we were able to accept that it is what it is and get on with the job.
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7th January 2018, 08:37 AM #9Senior Member
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Metric or imperial...still the same length, just expressed differently
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7th January 2018, 09:11 AM #10
This argument seems like Groundhog day from Dave.
Any real Joiner who hadn't been seduced by the evils of electrified appliances wouldn't care what the measurement system was, layout the first pieces by eye on a story stick and then measure everything else from real life.Franklin
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7th January 2018, 09:33 AM #11rrich Guest
The official value is 1 inch = 25.400051 MM. This conversion factor was adopted in 1933 by the ASA.
So 3/8 = 0.375 and 4 3/8 is 4.375. 4.375 times 25.400051 = 111.34377
Now .343 MM is less than 1/64 of an inch or somewhere about 3 sheets of Xerox paper, maybe 4. I don't know what is significant in the metric world of woodworking. Trivia - The thickness of a Hollerith Code Card, Tab Card or 'IBM' card is 0.0075 inch thick.
When I need to convert from flat earth measurements to metric I use the 25.400051 factor.
BTW - It was the Shelias of America that stopped the great American conversion to metric with these 5 words, "I won't cook in metric".
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7th January 2018, 09:44 AM #12
Actually the Americans can't even work in Imperial properly. How many times have I seen them use nomenclature such as 12.3 foot? What does that mean?
They also couldn't get it right when they tried to figure out the amount of liquid in a gallon or fluid ounce. Then, because they don't like metric, they turn a hundredweight from 112lb to 100lb. When cooking they scramble the volume in measures like teaspoon and tablespoon as well.
On and on.....Franklin
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7th January 2018, 10:00 AM #13GOLD MEMBER
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I am making a jig from an American imperial plan at the moment, it is quite involved and a lot of measuring is needed. The quickest way I have found to convert, only because my jointer/thicknesser are metric is to use a set of digital verniers, just the press of a button and it spits out the answer in either system. I was surprised how quickly I converted back to imperial after abandoning it over three decades ago and never using it since.
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7th January 2018, 10:03 AM #14Taking a break
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7th January 2018, 10:30 AM #15
I think you will find one measurement that is exactly the same in Metric or Imperial
a poofteenthJust do it!
Kind regards Rod
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