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1st August 2014, 10:19 AM #16... and this too shall pass away ...
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John,
You can buy decent rip (hand) saws very cheaply these days. That would take care of the straight bits. A (hand) coping saw would cut the curves. Then a scraper (or a spokeshave) and some sandpaper would finish the job. Using hand tools would make for a slower job, but it can still be done, and done well.
However, I reckon you should check out Alice for forum members, or failing that, a friendly cabinetmaker.
Cheerio!
John
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22nd August 2014, 10:22 PM #17
Try this bloke.
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f27/bs-470-leda-adelaide-186997The fact remains, that 97% of all statistics are made up, yet 87% of the population think they are real.
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23rd August 2014, 09:34 AM #18Intermediate Member
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Cheers for that - I might try a PM to him and see how that goes...
Thanks for the heads up.
Cheers
John
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23rd August 2014, 10:39 PM #19Sawdust maker from Alice Springs
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23rd August 2014, 11:27 PM #20
Hi Miko,
You could do it with a 1" blade. You might find the radius a bit tight but you can make some relief cuts almost to the line first. That way, as you cut to each relief cut, it fall out & gives you a bit more room.
I recently bought a 1/2" 6TPI for my 17" for about $45. That would be a better option. If you need to order blades from adelaide, Qworks in Queestown is my recommendation, but I'm sure you can get them closer.
SteveThe fact remains, that 97% of all statistics are made up, yet 87% of the population think they are real.
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4th October 2014, 02:21 AM #21Sawdust maker from Alice Springs
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Photos from the test cut
Here is John making some cuts on his "demo" leg. Looks like we will spend a day in Mid November and get the 4 legs done.
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4th October 2014, 09:14 AM #22Intermediate Member
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yep - finally getting there
Not only will this work, but it was fun getting to know a fellow woodworker in Alice Springs.
It'll go pretty quickly, I think. This job is really stretching out though! Both Miko's and my lives are way too busy!
Thanks all for advice.
John
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4th October 2014, 10:05 AM #23
I suggest that you make all the long cuts that taper the legs AND shape the foot BEFORE you cut the curved sections at the top of the spade section.
Use painters masking tape to tape the off cuts back onto the blank so the blank remains square and will sit flat for when you turn it 90° to shape the other face.regards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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4th October 2014, 02:44 PM #24Intermediate Member
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Hi ian - thanks for the advice.
Miko had the brilliant idea of not cutting the cuts off - just doing the cuts and pulling back out so they are still there - left hanging on the uncut end. Keeps is 90deg AND doesn't lose the cut lines. Excellent. Not sure if that makes sense but it works!
Not sure if Miko took photos of that but works well.
Cheers
John
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4th October 2014, 11:31 PM #25
Ive never done anything like this on a Bandsaw, but I have watched live demos of a bloke cutting queen anne style legs & that is exactly the way he did it.
He made it look easy.
SteveThe fact remains, that 97% of all statistics are made up, yet 87% of the population think they are real.
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15th December 2014, 09:58 PM #26Sawdust maker from Alice Springs
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26th December 2014, 11:39 AM #27Intermediate Member
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Ah the quiet of Christmas morning, and now around lunch
Happy Christmas – all is quiet, and now have some time… so
Firstly thank you all for your advice – and thank you Miko for use of your bandsaw and your help and advice.
So I have some very sweet spadefoot legs now. Here is the sequence (note - dunno how to show the piccies in the actual post - editing looks like they are there but the actual post requires double clicking on the attachment - sorry about that!) Here goes...
1. Mark out the shape
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2. Bandsaw as deeply into the straight cuts as possible, but DON’T cut stuff completely off (keeps a nice square base to the piece)
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3. Do little cuts up to the curved line
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5. Finally cut off the long straights
Cut into the bottom bit of, but still leaving a square end (which I cut off ages later using my table saw, after all of the sanding etc…)
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And then you have it – four bandsaw prepped legs (note my as-yet unused spare)
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Now I don’t have all the gear, but reckon I had the idea here. So here’s my belt sander clamped to my bench at right angles (needed to fiddle around to make that possible) and also a base with a cut in so it lifted the piece into the meat of the sanding belt)
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8. Because I still had square base to the piece this meant I could vigorously belt sand and get square corners – and the rig up was really stable, worked really well)
And as it happened, the curve at the front of my belt sander match almost exactly what I needed for my curve. You can see here that the little cuts have been knocked out. Bit of action with a hammer did that easily (thanks Miko for the encouragement on that – I was being sooky and over careful using a chisel)
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SO there you go, you can see one of my perfect legs on my tabletop.
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I’m presently doing the rails and will get to assembly pretty soon.
So… I will send a photo of that when it is all complete.
Happy Christmas!
Here’s what I got from my lovely wife: it’s not woodworking but it makes great juice.
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Cheerio!
John
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28th December 2014, 05:05 PM #28
Hi John,
Your legs turned out real nice mate.
You said your working on the rails next. I imagine you will be using M&T joints.
Just wondering what your plans are for making these.
Personally, I prefer to cut all my Mortise's with a Router, & my Tenons on the Table saw. Then I just knock the corners off the Tenons with a sharp Chisel. Very Quick, Easy & Accurate.
That said, The last table I built was a small desk for my Daughter. I joined the Rails to the legs with Sliding Dove Tails. This was an extremely accurate method with the outcome being less than 0.5mm difference across the diagonals with no adjustment required but I only have a small Dovetail Cutter & I feel this would not be strong enough for a bigger table like yours. It was an interesting challenge though and I had wanted to try it for a very long time. I will use this method again some day.
SteveThe fact remains, that 97% of all statistics are made up, yet 87% of the population think they are real.
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28th December 2014, 05:33 PM #29Intermediate Member
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M+T
Hi Ticky - thanks for your compliments on my legs. I am really happy with how they worked out.
I've done the tenons using my table saw...
Mortises? Hm... Well the problem is I keep on forgetting how to do them b/c I do them so seldomly, but, yep, the router will be it, I reckon. Have to decide what jig to use...
I'll keep you posted.
Cheers
John
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28th December 2014, 08:14 PM #30
Hi John,
I made a Mortice jig from a design I got in a Woodsmith Australia Mag. It's cheap & Simple to make, simple to use and very Accurate and repeatable. You can cut Left & Right hand from the same settings & you only need to mark out the first mortice to set up the jig. For all remaining legs, all you need is a Centre line across your proposed Mortice.
Have a look here.
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f40/afternoon-shed-158744
Hope this helps
SteveThe fact remains, that 97% of all statistics are made up, yet 87% of the population think they are real.
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