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13th June 2017, 07:57 PM #1
Box making - how to hide bottom dado?
I'm a self confessed beginner at this box making (having started today) and the first problem I've run into is how to hide the dado I've cut for the bottom? I've just filled it at the moment but that seems a particularly inelegant way to solve the problem.
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Any suggestions?
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14th June 2017, 01:39 AM #2
I stop the cut shy of the end and finish with a very small chisel.
I also use a 4mm router bit, but it seems a bit hairy to me.
Perhaps this is why mitred boxes are prolific
When I plug, I simply match the end grain with a sliver as you've done... Its quite invisible.
BTW, nice joint!
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14th June 2017, 07:45 AM #3GOLD MEMBER
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I always stop the cut and finish with a chisel also, put it in one of the joints and only have to stop the cut in the 2 through sides.
Regards Rod.Rod Gilbert.
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14th June 2017, 08:49 AM #4Senior Member
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I see you are using dovetails. I dry assemble to box and cut the dado with a slot cutter on the router. Round off the bottom and reassemble.
Cheers Bucky
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14th June 2017, 09:21 AM #5
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14th June 2017, 09:58 AM #6
Thanks everyone for some good suggestions.
I had considered the stop cut on the table saw but dismissed it because I was wary of doing something so delicate on such small pieces, especially as I have to make two passes to get the correct size dado.
The router bit method has merit and seems reasonably safe to me. I'll try it.
10/10 for this observation "only have to stop the cut in the 2 through sides". I only realised that when I looked very closely at the completed box.
The slot cutter in the router is a novel method I hadn't considered but I think it's worth a try too, especially as the height of the dado will be easy to regulate by just changing the height of the router bit in the table.
It's not obvious from the photo but the joint is a finger joint, not a dovetail. I use the Ed Stiles design jig which makes it really quick (5 - 10 mins to do all eight sides) but not idiot proof, which I've managed to demonstrate quite a few times.
Tony
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14th June 2017, 03:26 PM #7
The router option using a normal straight bit worked best for me. It was easy to set up, felt reasonably safe to use and achieved the desired result.
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Hi Tony,
Glad you have found a method you are happy with I was referring to a stopped cut on the router table as opposed to the table saw which leaves a lot more to clean out with the chisel which is a waste of time on a small box as you have to cut more with chisel than you get with the saw. If you are careful with the router method of stopped cut you can get it done without the need for a chisel just don't pop out the end.
Regards Rod.Rod Gilbert.
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14th June 2017, 04:38 PM #9
Thanks Rod, that's exactly what I did. I followed your advice to the letter and it worked really well. But I can see that without due care it would be easy to pop out the end.
I'm enjoying this box making. I think I used just about every major tool in the workshop today, even the lathe to turn a knob. What really impresses me is turning this (the bit on the top) from a kerbside pickup:
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into this:
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14th June 2017, 09:01 PM #10
For stopped cuts when routing, you can use stop blocks fitted to the fence to limit travel and prevent popping through at the end. With a stop block on the infeed and outfeed sections to limit travel, you position the work against the fence and the infeed stop and gently lower it onto the bit, and move backward a little until the work contacts the block then feed forward until you contact the outfeed block, back off a little and stop the router and lift the work off the table.
I used to be an engineer, I'm not an engineer any more, but on the really good days I can remember when I was.
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15th June 2017, 08:50 AM #11
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