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    Quote Originally Posted by barri View Post
    I didn't want to make them, time constraints and too lazy, but I keep hitting brick walls. I don't have a lathe so maybe I could find someone who has. I'm staggered that there isn't a retail place that you can buy these.
    Pop this on the Wood turning forum/threads and see if you get any takers. I could do it but I wont be able to do it for a while, are you in a rush?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ian View Post
    if you don't have a lathe and still want to make your own then VeritasĀ® Dowel Maker - Lee Valley Tools is an option.

    but for a small quantity, a shop built variation of this tool
    VeritasĀ® Dowel and Tenon Cutters - Lee Valley Tools
    works a treat. Use hardwood and a plane blade.
    Not in metric, Ian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fumbler View Post
    Pop this on the Wood turning forum/threads and see if you get any takers. I could do it but I wont be able to do it for a while, are you in a rush?
    No I'm not in a rush but I'm in country Victoria.

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    Is there any reason that you can't drill the holes out to 22mm and use the 22mm dowel from Bunnings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by barri View Post
    Not in metric, Ian
    quoting from the advertising bumph for the VeritasĀ® Dowel Maker - Lee Valley Tools
    "The range of blade adjustment lets you make dowel as much as 1/16" undersize"
    so at an intended 13/16ths dowel can be adjusted to achieve the approx .7 mm "undersize" required to clearance fit a 20 mm hole.

    but for a few, this jig will do the job
    regards from Canada

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjbfisher View Post
    Is there any reason that you can't drill the holes out to 22mm and use the 22mm dowel from Bunnings?
    I've ordered a guide that helps me build my own festool type mft table that includes a 20mm cutter/holes and that's the size I want to drill. Also many of the dogs, clamps, hold downs and accessories for mft tables supplied by companies like veritas are 20mm. So the most common size of dog holes and associated clamps are 3/4" and 20mm.

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    You might as well use 19mm dowels since there is the need to add a "spring" to hold the dog at the desired height. Usually, for round dogs, this is a wire in a groove along the side. An alternative would be to plane a flat and add a wooden spring. Then spokeshave the excess away. I think that you will end with a tight fit.

    Personally, I would not be making dogs from Tassie Oak. I question whether it is not strong enough. I think it will bend and snap.

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    The problem with having 20 mm wooden dowels as dogs is that the dogs that are used with 20 mm holes are actually 19.xx mm in diameter depending on brand. Wooden dogs will change in diameter with moisture content and so will one day be tight and then loose.

    In my case I turn my own ones out of a 20 mm aluminium bar and can make them to whatever fit I require.

    If you really want to make your own just buy some 20 mm ali bar and sand it down to the fit you require.

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    .. or 20mm brass rod.

    See the Veritas dogs as an example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by derekcohen View Post
    .. or 20mm brass rod.
    That's a great alternative Derek. Even Bunnings have 20mm stiff conduit which would work perfectly. Also, I didn't want to bother with springs on the dogs as the ones I want to make will have a rectangular cap at the top. As long as its snug with a "small" amount of movement then that's fine with what I want to do.

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    Bunnings also sell baluster rods in kwila which I think are 20mm. It's also a LOT cheaper than buying dowel if you only need short lengths. I was using it to make trampoline ladders. They are a couple of aisles left of the timber.
    Cheers, Robbie.

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