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16th September 2017, 01:06 PM #16
WOW. I knew the Lamello jointers weren't cheap, but the Zeta P2 makes Festool's domino look inexpensive ...
regards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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16th September 2017, 09:36 PM #18
That Lamello looks pretty schmicko for this kind of job. Price is fierce too, and not just for the machine.
Do I neeeeeed one?? Hmmmmm.... Need....
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17th September 2017, 12:17 AM #19
Go on, you know you want to...
Granted, it is an expensive bit of machinery but look at it this way:
- No need for static machines (horizontal + vertical borers etc.)
- Setup is a breeze and it's easy to use
- The connectors are the duck's nuts
- Versatility is key: small or large pieces; in the workshop or on site; edges or middle of components
- Space saver, both storage and usage
- Servicing and buying replacements parts are relatively pain free
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17th September 2017, 01:11 AM #20
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17th September 2017, 01:36 AM #21
perhaps think about how the item would be delivered
assembled -- Dominos, biscuits, dowels, screws, Lamello P system joiners
partly assembled -- the centre angled section could be doweled and delivered as a unit, but you'd need to consider knock down fittings for the rest
flat pack -- it would be all knock down hardware
and if you want to be particularly flash, there's no need for visible holes Invis Mx2 - Lamello AG
BONUS and it can all be done with using the battery drill you already own.regards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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17th September 2017, 01:52 AM #22Taking a break
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17th September 2017, 02:14 AM #23
I think the "starter" kit is close to $1000 AUD
regards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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18th September 2017, 12:56 AM #24
There's a difference between linking to a page vs linking to a video. My reasons related to the Zeta P2, given the previous replies.
If you have a CNC, then as a bonus, you can incorporate it (P-System with CNC) into your fabrication and simplify your workflow even further.
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18th September 2017, 02:12 AM #25
this is something that I'm not really on top of. Others might be able to link to a video, the most I can achieve is linking to the page which contains the vid.
but I'd rather follow up on this bit
the video showed the cutter being located via pins engaging in a pair of alignment holes. The accompanying joint layout diagram seemed to imply that the locating holes are an integral part of using the system.
as a user of the system, can you advise if my impression correct, or can the P-system cutter be registered in a similar manner to registering a regular biscuit joiner?
also, is there a diagram that explains how the cutter works? I get that the machine cuts a T shaped slot, what I don't get is how a plunging blade can cut the T shape.regards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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18th September 2017, 02:53 AM #26
Locating holes just make it easier, but you don't need a CNC for those. Depending on one's drilling skills, this can be done free hand or by using templates/jigs/stencils etc. Having said that, we rarely use locating holes and we have a CNC + jigs etc...
Check out this video:
As elanjacobs mentioned in his post (#17), it's a "plunge-up-down-home-retract action". Check out this video:
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18th September 2017, 03:34 AM #27
Thanks
regards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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18th September 2017, 03:42 AM #28
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18th September 2017, 11:12 AM #29
Ohhhh, I really wish that I hadn't watched those videos...
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18th September 2017, 11:27 AM #30
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