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Saw that a few days ago, in principle a good idea but spending countless hours and money on making it is just a waste. If a person finds it so difficult to line up the holes then maybe a ROS is not for them

Originally Posted by double.d

Saw that a few days ago, in principle a good idea but spending countless hours and money on making it is just a waste. If a person finds it so difficult to line up the holes then maybe a ROS is not for them

A waste! I don't think that's quite right . People around here spend huge amounts of time doing all sorts of things that could be labeled as time consuming and costly. Its not a waste of anything.
Mostly its how they spend their time or spare time. Organizing their workshops
That to me looks like a good way of organizing sand paper. You could shelve the different grits like that and have one loose pegged board for hole alignment even, and not go to all the trouble of many pegged shelves and magnets. The pegged alignment would be fun to try out I reckon.

It ticked my interest off because I have yet to solve my sand paper storage issue and I'm thinking of a cabinet with doors or probably drawers that is tall for all the rolls and sheets and used stuff. The ROS paper I hadn't even thought about yet but shelves like that above my other stuff would be better than my current way of sitting under a bench in the deteriorating cardboard boxes they came in.

With your reply in general if you don't have anything neutral nice or positive to say why say anything? Plenty of people just just view and pass on by. That sort of reply is what puts off forum users posting.

For production use as Rob does it will save a lot of time as well as frustration, not everyone does a change of paper once a week, some do it multiple times a day as part of their job.

I thought it looked like a good idea , not that I have much trouble lining up the holes, but just a much more organised way of storing the discs than my current method.

My sander came with this neat little attachment for aligning.

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To my mind, that's a nifty way of storing the ROS papers.

Easy to see at a glance whether any particular grit needs restocking, while avoiding the need for glass/perspex fronts to stop stray breezes (and compressor blasts ) scattering 'em across the floor.

That it can also be used to quickly align the paper on the ROS is the cream on the cake..

Public forums are for expressions of ideas and information, not everyone has to like the ideas and information and should be free to put forward their dislikes without personal attacks.

As i have written, when i first looked at the video i thought what a good idea but after a few minutes of thinking about my own (and probably many others) needs and set up it became a waste of time and resources.

As an example when i am preparing jobs i use 4 grits, sometimes 2 of each if they wear quick, and then i am changing from one to the other during the process. That can be dozens of disc changes within a few hours. Every time i change a disc do i peg it again for later use?
The storage device would need to be right above the sanding station to be effective, i sand on my bench so unplugging the sander from power and dust extraction to move to a side bench to change discs is unproductive and frustrating.
To prove another point i conducted a little test that you are all welcome to try. I got a stack of discs from my storage device separated them and then laid them on each other again then placed the sander on the stack as if i were choosing a new disc to use and as i suspected 2-3 discs came of the pile because you have to stack them face to back for the pegged device to function, meaning you can only have 1 disc per time for it to work, i could go on and on.
It may be a solution for a small few but i suspect the person who posted the video is just looking for followers.

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If you use mesh sanding media there are no holes to align. Once you experience the finer finish, longevity and superior dust collection of mesh you would never go back to paper discs.

Originally Posted by aldav

If you use mesh sanding media there are no holes to align. Once you experience the finer finish, longevity and superior dust collection of mesh you would never go back to paper discs.

Yeah? Sounds good . I’m yet to try that . I was buying some flexible cloth rolls of sand paper last week to use at the lathe for woodturning and considering trying the mesh stuff. So it’s good on machine sanding too! I’m not sure if it’s good on the lathe though . Anyone tried it on wood turning ?

Originally Posted by auscab

Anyone tried it on wood turning ?

I haven’t completely converted over to it, as I’m still using up my rolls of conventional sandpaper, but I really like it. I have only used it on spindle turned items such as handles and pens, not bowls.

Originally Posted by auscab

I’m not sure if it’s good on the lathe though . Anyone tried it on wood turning ?

It works alright. How well, like anything, depends on the quality. In my experience sanding turnings it's more "how much flex the backing will take?" that determines the life cycle, rather than worn grit.

(For cheaper papers, it's often backing failure that determines when the grit falls off! )

FWIW, I tend to stick with Hermes cloth-backed papers for turning, simply because I know they work & last well. I don't particularly enjoy sanding and don't want to make it any more of a chore than it already is.

But I'll happily buy micromeshs or similar if they're significantly cheaper and of similar quality.

Yep I mainly spindle turn. I bought the Hermes cloth backed stuff.
From here.
Flexible Cloth Sandpaper Sanding Rolls

Ive always just used paper backed stuff on the lathe and yes its the folding that fails. Or old belt sander rolls with real heavy cloth backing as well that almost wont fold straight. The Hermes cloth backed I just bought is a real nice upgrade . It was described as like folding blue jean material . The folds last much longer and the cloth forms around beads and coves 100% better.

Mesh paper for turning may just be better at not clogging possibly . I would guess the folding of mesh may mean a lot less grit in between the beads where its wanted. Just got to try it out I suppose . Sand paper is not real cheap as well. I buy it in bursts of a couple of hundred $ at a time to spread it out.

Originally Posted by double.d

As an example when i am preparing jobs i use 4 grits, sometimes 2 of each if they wear quick, and then i am changing from one to the other during the process. That can be dozens of disc changes within a few hours. Every time i change a disc do i peg it again for later use?

I'm doing the same sort of thing sometimes through a couple of grits usually. What annoys me is dealing with the Festo sander that is attached to the dust extracion vacuum with the springy flex pipe . Balancing that upside down and lining up the paper. It never goes on exactly right. Close is good enough.
I think the peg board is worth a try though. Just a loose one off that could be knocked up and sit in the top of the Festo Vacuum storage section even. To grab each time I want to fit a sheet.