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    Default Copyright breaches - Be alert for Ron

    Hi

    I've just received this request via the email, you can imagine my response!!!

    Hi Tony
    I have registered on your website and am wondering if I would be contravening any copyright if I were to use your designs to make a small income. I have made a few designs from another source for presents in the past
    Regards Ron
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    Now a power carver and living the dream.

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    Considering this is what you do for a living... err yes its contravening ?
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    At least he was good enough to tell you what he was doing & asked if it was OK.
    I'll bet that there will be somebody who has done it anyway without telling you or asking you.
    Cliff.
    If you find a post of mine that is missing a pic that you'd like to see, let me know & I'll see if I can find a copy.

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    Here's this old chestnut again.

    The provisions of the australian coppyright system offer NO protection for your design what so ever. This is similar world wide.... lots of people would like you to think otherwise but thats the way it is.

    If you publish a picture of something, anything the only thing protected is the actual picture its self. Even then if i were to publish a newly created image that looked like but wasn't the original image you would have NO claim against me.

    further
    If I wrote an article and published it. Anybody could then read and rephrase and reword that artcle and publish it. It would be plagerism, BUT I would have NO claim against that person. A publisher may have a contractual claim if that person claimed the work was original but not otherwise.

    The protection only extends to the expression of the intelectual property and not the idea its self, under coppyright.
    Furthermore as soon as a idea, image or "thing" takes a physical form other than two dimensional confined to a page or some form of "publishable media"...... coppyright does not apply.

    If you want to protect a design, you need to take out a design regestration. That design then has to comply with certain "requirements" and its uniqueness has to be formaly defined and verified.

    In general, regarding intelectual property....... once you publish an idea "it is gone" and you have no controll of the idea.....the only thing you can controll is your original "expression" of the idea.

    There are lots of book and magazine publishers worldwide, particularly in the US who try this one on....the only leg they have to stand on is public ignorance.

    If you doubt, check out IP australia.
    Provisions of coppyright are very simple, crude and specific.

    cheers
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    Abrasives can be just as dangerous as a blade.....and 10 times more painfull.

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    That's why I never tell anyone about my ideas. Once they are out there, they're gone. That would leave way to much room for the other two to rattle round in.
    Boring signature time again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by outback View Post
    That's why I never tell anyone about my ideas. Once they are out there, they're gone. That would leave way to much room for the other two to rattle round in.
    Actually, when (if) I get an idea, I tell it to someone immediately - otherwise it might well die of loneliness
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    Quote Originally Posted by outback View Post
    That's why I never tell anyone about my ideas. Once they are out there, they're gone. That would leave way to much room for the other two to rattle round in.
    I usually don't tell people about my ideas........I'm sick of the laughter.

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    These idea thingies, where do you get them then? I don't think I've ever had one myself.

    Mick
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    tomorrow you will have paid for it and not have it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sculptured Box View Post
    Hi

    I've just received this request via the email, you can imagine my response!!!

    Hi Tony
    I have registered on your website and am wondering if I would be contravening any copyright if I were to use your designs to make a small income. I have made a few designs from another source for presents in the past
    Regards Ron

    Tell him he can use your ideas provided he acknowledges where they came from and pays you a fee of $50.00 per time for each one used.

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    So does this mean I can open a food outlet called "Crapdonnalds"... you want some Crapfries with that Crapburger?
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    Something tells me someone REALLY doesn't like McDonalds

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    Quote Originally Posted by abitfishy View Post
    Something tells me someone REALLY doesn't like McDonalds
    Maybe Harry likes the interior décor of court rooms as Im sure thats where he will end up.

    Remember the Gunns case?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sculptured Box View Post
    Hi

    I've just received this request via the email, you can imagine my response!!!

    Hi Tony
    I have registered on your website and am wondering if I would be contravening any copyright if I were to use your designs to make a small income. I have made a few designs from another source for presents in the past
    Regards Ron
    As Cliff said, I'd just be grateful he actually bothered asking- at least you can then provide a measured response. And perhaps an opportunity to partner with him on a project - he makes for profit, you design, you both get paid.
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    Pancakes?
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