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29th May 2021, 08:41 PM #1SENIOR MEMBER
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Finishing Question
Hi fellows, hoping someone might help me here.
I started finishing a small veneer panel with Danish Oil, mainly because I had what I thought enough left to do the whole job. But after 4 attempts to apply and then pick the right time to wipe off the excess, no matter what I did, it was claggy and sticky, and not even.
I've realised that my problem is probably that the Danish Oil is past its use by date. Looking at it, it is milky, not clear.
The question is this. If I sand it down reasonably will I be able to revert to the Ubeaut hard shellac I got this year?
I'm just hoping that will work. No going shopping now
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29th May 2021, 10:13 PM #2Senior Member
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The hard shellac is dewaxed so it should stick pretty well. Just be gentle with your sanding - it's easy to break through to the substrate if you're using a powered sander!
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30th May 2021, 07:11 AM #4Senior Member
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I just bought some hard shellac and I think it mentioned the possibility of cracking if applied over other finishes
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30th May 2021, 09:12 AM #5SENIOR MEMBER
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30th May 2021, 09:15 AM #6SENIOR MEMBER
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Hadn't thought of that Elan. I guess wait for it to completely dry after sanding. It has been nearly 2 weeks already (just spent past week and half in bed with a serious cold/chest infection, that slowed me down)
Does it make sense that something like Danish Oil does have a use by date and go off?
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The problem with oil is that it's a penetrating finish that gets absorbed by the timber, as opposed to surface finishes, like wax or poly, that just sit on top. I don't have much experience with finishing, but my gut feel is that it's basically impossible to completely remove oil from veneer (especially 4 coats after sitting for so long), hopefully the shellac will still work.
Does it make sense that something like Danish Oil does have a use by date and go off?
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30th May 2021, 07:05 PM #8Senior Member
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Danish oil is a bit of a different beast - it's not just oil and usually has got some kind of varnish/polyurethane component to it. As long as it's not ridiculously thick then I think it will eventually set. I had problems with old polyurethane tins in the past, which had heavily skinned on top and didn't seem to want to set... but they eventually did as long as the coat wasn't too thick. Don't recommend it for anything important!
Thinking more about it, If it feels gunky, I would try using a well honed cabinet scraper to remove the old surface layer (may be easier than sanding if it's sticky), then wait a few weeks to make sure the remainder is hardened. Then you can give a light sand then give it a go with the shellac. No guarantees but I think that will give you the best shot.
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31st May 2021, 03:06 PM #9
Absolutely, depending on which brand you chose, there are essentially two recipes for "Danish Oil":
- roughly equal parts of 'traditional varnish', boiled linseed oil and turpentine, and
- roughly equal parts of polyurethane, boiled linseed oil and turpentine.
Easy to make your own - mix, stir, use.
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