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Thread: Flattening large boards... How?
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2nd November 2004, 12:56 PM #1
Flattening large boards... How?
Ive just cut out the boards needed to start the bar Ive been instructed to build for our son in law... but have found a bit of a problem with the boards
First sizes:
Front panels: 6 x 92cm L {or 36in} x 50cm W {or 19 3/4in} x 4cm T {or 1 1/2in}
The top is 1 peice: 1850cm L {or 6ft 3/4in} x 53cm W {or 21in} x 4cm T {1 1/2in}
There is a slight cupping nothing overly much just enough to drive me nuts... so is there anyway of flattening these boards so theyre flat and meet on a level playing feild? the top has minor cupping and nothing that cant be sorted with a bit of planing and or heavy sanding... the fronts however would take a serious amount of plaining and sanding to get flat
Do any of you fellas have an inovative idea on getting them flat... without having to lug them somewhere to have them run through a seriously big thicknesser at some inordinate cost?... something with the router maybe? I wouldnt have a clue as the last time I did anything like this was up north years ago and my only alternative was to do some seriass planing and sanding that was Jarrah this is Tuart
Oh once flat Im planing on doing an insert so will have even more questions then just NEED to get these flat and level first.
Thanks for any advice help etc
Oh the boards will join side by side width wise so one is cupped out the one next to it cups in... aarrrgggghhhhBelieve me there IS life beyond marriage!!! Relax breathe and smile learn to laugh again from the heart so it reaches the eyes!!
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2nd November 2004, 01:08 PM #2
One problem that could occur is that the cupping could start all over again once flattened out, the joys of slabs.
Saw a similar situation with a redgum kitchen bench, this bloke bolted it to the floor and it pulled up the slab.
Sorry to be negative but it is worth considering.
You could consider ripping the slab into strips and reglueing in reverse order to help prevent this ifit occurs.
Apart from that a jig to hold a router above, oh sod it, go to this link, it's easier than trying to describe it:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/home...1/router_jigs/Stupidity kills. Absolute stupidity kills absolutely.
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2nd November 2004, 04:46 PM #3
WD
There are two ways to do this at home.
(1) The first is with your router. You will need to build a level platform around each slab (use MDF, or steel square sections). Set your router into a sled (a piece of MDF reinforced at the edges so that it will not sag). This will run along the top of the platform, sliding it back-and-forth. Using your widest straight bit in the router, slowly skim off the high points until everything is level.
I have done this very successfully in the past.
(2) These days I am more likely to use a pair of "winding sticks" and handplanes. I'd begin with a scrub plane, move to a jack, then the longest jointer I have (in my case a #7 Stanley). The winding sticks can be used in (1) as well to determine where the twist acually lies. And keep in mind that you need to do both sides of the slabs.
What are winding sticks? Just long (3'/1m) straight and even pieces of timber (or aluminium section). Place at each end of the slab parallel to each other. When you stand back and look over the front stick at the rear stick, you will be able to quickly tell if there is twist. Move the front stick back and forth to assess various sections of the slab.
Regards from Perth
Derek
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2nd November 2004, 07:57 PM #4
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2nd November 2004, 08:30 PM #5
Shane, I responded to a similar question some time ago, suggest you do a search on slabber. Dereck has the right idea with the router, instead of a straight bit I used a dish cutter bit (page 124 Carba-Tec cattledog).Hope this helps.
Cheers
Barry
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2nd November 2004, 10:08 PM #6
All of the above sounds great to plane the slab back to flat. What about preventing it to cup again?
I suggest a series of cuts along the board on the underside, cutting half way through the timber, in the area that cannot be seen.“We often contradict an opinion for no other reason
than that we do not like the tone in which it is expressed.”
Friedrich Nietzsche
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3rd November 2004, 10:17 AM #7
Wild Dingo,
I had a similar problem with a slab of camphor laurel a while back. I used a jig I made from plans on the net - similar to what Derek described and used an 1 1/4" end cutting bit in the Triton. Got a good result and the winding sticks are showing that everything is still OK.
I wasn't sure how well the 3" slab was seasoned :confused:
I used threaded stair tread ties so that I could use the jig on anything upto 1200mm wide so it's had a workout. If you want it and can't find it on the web, let me know and I'll email you with it
JamiePerhaps it is better to be irresponsible and right, than to be responsible and wrong.
Winston Churchill
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3rd November 2004, 03:58 PM #8Originally Posted by Iain
I am interested in using an overarm router with an X-Y axis table to act like a small vertical mill.
Someone on the USA routerforum replied to my query with a link for that site showing how to make a mount to hold a router on a pillar drill column.
http://popularmechanics.com/home_imp...er/index.phtml
This will be a great help to me.Dewy
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4th November 2004, 11:48 AM #9
Shane, I agree with the others recommending using the router.
Refer the following thread http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...ad.php?t=12712
Just ask if you're interested in more detail.........cheers.......Sean
The beatings will continue until morale improves.
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4th November 2004, 12:46 PM #10
Seems Iain gave you the URL anyway.
This was the one I made. It's at the followingsite
As I said by using the threaded rods you get a bit of flexibility in the width department
JamiePerhaps it is better to be irresponsible and right, than to be responsible and wrong.
Winston Churchill