Thread: Help Toy Truck Wheels

Those look like dome push nuts. It's what it sounds like, its a dome which has protrusions inside that grips the axle when pushed on. These are probably the same as what are used on laundry trolleys and very difficult to get off without damaging everything in sight. Your best bet may be to just cut the axle and remove the wheels that way, especially since it looks like the push nut domes are quite far inside in the wheel itself.

Originally Posted by Alkahestic

Those look like dome push nuts. It's what it sounds like, its a dome which has protrusions inside that grips the axle when pushed on. These are probably the same as what are used on laundry trolleys and very difficult to get off without damaging everything in sight. Your best bet may be to just cut the axle and remove the wheels that way, especially since it looks like the push nut domes are quite far inside in the wheel itself.

Alright cool. Plan B was always to cut the axle, I was just hoping I could avoid it. Cheers for the help ^_^

I would cut the axle and remove it. The. You can pull the push but off by getting to the back side and pushing in the tabs that grip the axle. Replace the axle with a new piece of round and reuse the push nuts.


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Could you drill them off like pop rivets?

Originally Posted by elanjacobs

Could you drill them off like pop rivets?

Not exactly, the dome hides a round washer like thing except it's not a washer, it's designed so you can push a rod into it but then it won't allow the rod back out. Kind of like this: https://goo.gl/images/7UYz8g

So drilling the dome out should get you access to the 'clip' which can then be pried off, but with the push nut so far inside the wheel and possibly rusted, I'm not sure how you'd lever it out, maybe a small dremel tip to cut it up? I would think it would be easier to buy two new push nuts, washers, and some rod stock ebay for a few dollars.

You should be able to buy steel rod and push on nuts easily and cheaply. Why not just saw the axle in half to get it off.

Edit: just noticed that’s pretty much what Alkahestic suggested.

Drill a small hole in the middle of the dome large enough for a pin punch to go thru it. Bash the punch thru the hole onto the end of the axle and you will get it off one end. You will need to replace the dome washers.

awesome suggestions guys. Checking out ebay now for the steel rod. I'm assuming the rod that was used on the truck originally was threaded at the ends otherwise how would the push nut hold onto it?
If so what exactly is a piece of steel bar called that only has threading at the ends called?

No threading. The washers grip a smooth rod.

Yeah great suggestions but all that extra work !

Isn't it possible to restore it without going to all that trouble ? The rails the axles go through look to have screws going up into the body of the truck . If they are taken off and the body separated then the rails will slide in along the axles giving you room to clean up and coat the lot I think . The only thing is you may have to poke some steel wool down the holes to clean up the domes. No hang on , they will be exposed as well with the wheels sliding in .

Just something I'd be considering rather than chasing and renewing those parts .

If a jobs worth doing it worth doing it fast. And well .

Either way its a nice little job . The sort of thing that I love doing .

Rob

Bunnings has steel rod/bar plus I've seen axle caps there too or maybe even Mitre 10....
The wheels could be gently tapped off the axles with occasional oscillating action of the wheel to easly move the axle cap...
When in this vast brown land do you hale as someone who maybe close could give some hands on assistance...
Cheers, crowie

Not sure what your axle size is, but Bunnings carry a few options, this is the smallest I think, https://www.bunnings.com.au/ambassad...h-cap_p3940121. it's $7.50 for the axle and nuts.

Originally Posted by Alkahestic

Not sure what your axle size is, but Bunnings carry a few options, this is the smallest I think, https://www.bunnings.com.au/ambassad...h-cap_p3940121. it's $7.50 for the axle and nuts.

So can update for anyone who's interested purchased 1.2m length of 6.3mm steel rod and order some of these. Just need to find something to cap the washers.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/253825075743

What you really need is these. Unfortunately the hardware chains only seem to go down to 5/16" or 8mm. They are available from good nut & bolt suppliers in the smaller size of 1/4" which your axle looks like.
As Bohdan said, if you can hold the axle and drill a hole through the dome so that you can get something made of steel (preferably a pin punch but not essential) through the hole, and then support the rail that the axle goes through close to both sides of the axle. You should then be able to punch the axle through the teeth of the dome nut. Once you have got one side off you can twist the other one off by holding it with pliers and hold the axle in a vice.