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24th November 2011, 04:53 PM #1SENIOR MEMBER
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How do they do this?
Hi, this is probably going to seem really stupid but, my wife wants me to re-fitout our wardrobe with Melamine.
I am used to using solid wood but not this.
My question is how do they join the pieces together say in the following example
I presume the shelves are just held on with adjustable pins etc but how do they attach the vertical pieces?
Not just in this example but I guess in general cabinet making?
I doubt they use daddos etc, do they just use glue? or do they use screws, or nails or pocket screws etc.
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24th November 2011, 05:30 PM #2GOLD MEMBER
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Where prefinished board is used, dowels or biscuits would be used. In the case of raw MDF the same method can be used or screwed and filled prior to painting.
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24th November 2011, 05:36 PM #3Skwair2rownd
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Usual stunt is to have a line of evenly spaced holes drilled a set distance from the back and front edges of each panel. This allows the shelves to be moved to whatever spacing chosen.
Small "L" shaped brackets with a pin the size of the hole can be bought to sit the shelves on.
Bugger of a job to do the holes yourself as you need an accurate jig and a steady hand with the drill.
Joining is done with dowels or screws. Accuracy is essential, otherwise a dado can be run and glue used..
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24th November 2011, 08:14 PM #4SENIOR MEMBER
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Cheers guys
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24th November 2011, 10:07 PM #5
Hi Arry, I don't want to depress you, but if the wife really really wants Melamine, and a layout like that in your picture, it's probably quicker and cheaper to buy a finished unit from Ikea
as to joining the stuff
usual method is to use knock down fittings
however, the killer especially around the home is the need to cut accurately to size and for your cuts to be square, all without chipping the edges -- this is where a panel saw with a scribing blade comes in useful.regards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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25th November 2011, 12:06 PM #6SENIOR MEMBER
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The unit in that picture is an Ikea product. The range is called Expedit.
As Ian said, it's going to save you a lot of effort, time, and probably money by refitting the interior of the wardrobe with Ikea stuff. I did it once.
The wife will be happy and you can get on with more satisfying projects.
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25th November 2011, 12:29 PM #7SENIOR MEMBER
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Cheers guys but maybe I didn't explain it clear enough, my bad )
That picture was something I found googling of just the type of style.
She wants it all outfitted in Melamine or similar, but custom fitted, ie to suit our small walk in robe.
Off the shelf stuff would unlikely suit )
I will have a look at the Ikea site now just to see what they have )
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25th November 2011, 12:42 PM #8SENIOR MEMBER
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You still might find the wardrobe interiors they sell will work. They sell them in flat pack modules without doors. And your wife can have fun buying all the baskets and other fittings - there's hours of enjoyment there. At worst you might have to make up an in-fill panel somewhere.
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25th November 2011, 12:47 PM #9New Member
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I built a lot of Melamine cabinets in our house, and I did use rabbets and dadoes. I applied glue in them, and then screws with a very coarse thread designed for engineered wood (particle/chip board). The dadoes tended to be about 1/4" deep, since they are mainly for positive location. Rabbets were more like half or more the depth of the material.
With melamine, it's important to use blades that won't chip the surface.
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25th November 2011, 12:48 PM #10SENIOR MEMBER
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Just had a look but nothing really suits
I think I can do it heaps cheaper than getting someone to do a custom built one for me.....
I had a look around and what some people charge is out of this world )
Considering I have a tablesaw, drills, router and router table, saws, drill press .....etc etc I will give it a crack
Might even post photos lol )
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25th November 2011, 12:52 PM #11SENIOR MEMBER
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[QUOTE=With melamine, it's important to use blades that won't chip the surface.[/QUOTE]
I have this blade here:
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25th November 2011, 01:01 PM #12SENIOR MEMBER
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You need to make sure you get the edging right.
I like the pencil round 2mm stuff.
On a wardrobe, where the edging is visible and at often at eye height, I would use the 2mm stuff rather than the tape.
I've just finished doing a kitchen, wardrobe and bathoom fitout at home. All the carcasses are melamine with 2mm edging.
I worked out a cutting list and took it to a local guy who does kitchens. He cut and edged what I needed and I brought the bits home and screwed them together. It was much cheaper than even the flat pack route.
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25th November 2011, 01:06 PM #13SENIOR MEMBER
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Hi
Do you mean the Iron on edging is 2mm?
I presumed I could just use our normal iron to put it on.
Speaking of that, where can I get the edging and a trimmer from?
Would you mind sending me a few photos of what you have done )
Why didn't you cut it yourself?
Thanks heaps
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25th November 2011, 01:27 PM #14SENIOR MEMBER
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The tape can be ironed on I think. I suspect that may not work as well with the 2mm stuff - it might need heat and pressure. I'm not sure though.
The rolls of thin tape edging you could buy anywhere. Whoever sells you your melamine sheets would sell it. Bunnings would, too, I imagine.
I'm still going on the plywood doors and shelves etc. I'll take some photos when I'm done. I'm just a DIY guy, so everything takes me a while.
I decided it was so much easier and quicker to pick up bits cut and edged to size for me to screw together. It would have been cheaper to bring home sheets of 2400 x 1200 melamine and cut up and edge it etc, but it would not have been remotely satisfying.
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25th November 2011, 02:44 PM #15
For this type of work the material is housed and screwed (or brad gun) then a laminex or Formica is adhered to the outside surfaces which covers all fixings. The front strips are applied last.
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