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9th November 2006, 10:52 PM #1Member
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Old Jointer/thicknesser restoration
I just got a new old addition to the collection which will be lovingly restored to original condition. It is a 1922 Thomas Robinson & Sons Type ME 18" Jointer/thickmesser combo. It is 99.9% complete and unbutchered. The only parts missing are the height adjuster handle (bot right of second pickie) and the guard. Adjuster handle is easy enough to reproduce but the guard has me scratching my head a bit. The lever and counterweight are there but the guard assembly is missing. The various parts for the guard are easy enough to manufacture but the mechanics of the guard system have me a little stumped. Form the photo it appears that the fence side pivots of the fence but I have never seen this type of setup. If anyone happens to have this setup or any pickies from other angles it would be much appreciated. I was fortunate enough to find this image on the net which is very clear and of good quality but have found very little info on Robinson & Sons. Any sugesstions to good sites for old machine restoration would be appreciated
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9th November 2006, 11:51 PM #2
Gee you've got a real beaut there in that machine and I wish you all the best with it however can only suggest you do a Google on the name or research old machinery if you have'nt already done so.
Be interesting to see how you make out with this old machine.
CheersJohnno
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9th November 2006, 11:57 PM #3
beautiful old piece of machinery, how about some pics of its current condition?
Does it have a square head cutter block?I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.
Albert Einstein
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10th November 2006, 12:07 AM #4
Looks very similar to a current "euro" type guard. Pushing on the lever changes the height of the guard above the tables (to accomodate different thickness timbers) and it looks like it can be slid back and forth by loosening the knob near the closer end to accomodate the fence being moved. Awsome looking bit of machinery, what I wouldn't give for an 18" wide jointer! Drool.
Mick"If you need a machine today and don't buy it,
tomorrow you will have paid for it and not have it."
- Henry Ford 1938
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10th November 2006, 10:13 AM #5
That is a very serious piece of machinery. If you are desperate and have to go offshore (a bit) try Heal Machinery at +64 3-389 5186 - lots of used gear mainly big stuff (3 ph Wadkin etc).
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10th November 2006, 10:10 PM #6China
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You could try www.owwm.com they have some english machines, from the pics it looks as though it may have a square cutter block if you intend to use the machine I strongly recomend you replace it with the cylindrical type
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10th November 2006, 11:41 PM #7Member
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Pickies
1. Almost home. Only another cpl of hours sweating and shoving.Woops now I have to do a little concrete repair as well. :mad: At least it didny hurt the machine
2. Patent Plate
3. The business side
4. Thicknesser infeed view. Counterweights at bot for infeed roller pressure. 2HP power feed motor
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10th November 2006, 11:55 PM #8Member
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5. Thicknesser outfeed view. Motor is mounted too high up hitting on table roller extension and not allowing full 9" depth for thicknessing.:confused:
6. The Driving force. 7 1/2 HP to cutterblock. I'm a little concerned if 4 belts will give enough grip
7. Looking over the fence. Nice and sturdy and adjusts easily. Has fine adjustment for fine tuning rebates
8. 5" X 2 blade skew type cutterblock. Rear table slid back showing infeed roller and chip breaker.
Machine is currently useable with a little re assembly work. All adjusters turn freely. Thicknesser table height can even be adjusted with one finger.
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11th November 2006, 12:24 AM #9"If you need a machine today and don't buy it,
tomorrow you will have paid for it and not have it."
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11th November 2006, 12:46 AM #10Senior Member
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Thomas Robinson and Son, Ltd., Rochdale, England.
They made woodworking machinery, after a google search they may have done trains and cerial milling later on in life. But I cant find any more information than that. You could try to get onto some historical people in England that might be able to help.
Infact if you google search the name. You can look at books that have that name and in there is an education authorities directory and annual - page 344, that gives there phone number. Dont think it would be much use though.
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11th November 2006, 11:16 AM #11
Well it looks awesome, and brilliant that it has a round cutter head.
She's a keeper (and a user).
Spend your time (if you have it ) restoring that beauty and if you intend using it, I would be guarding all those moving parts and changing the Euro blade guard to a kidney shaped set up.
I'm sure if you couldn't wait, you could probably spend a day getting it up to speed with some lube and spanner work, these thing last for ever.
...............They sure don't make them like they used to.I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.
Albert Einstein
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13th November 2006, 09:49 PM #12Member
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and even better than a round cutterblock is that it is has scew type cutterblock. It will be getting everyday use, I didn't buy it to sit back and look at. ... although it is impressive to look at. I have a good guard design for everyday use but since it is so complete and good condition for its age I would like to reproduce the original guard purely for authenticity reasons.
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13th November 2006, 10:02 PM #13China
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As said previously great that it does have a round cutter block the old square one love to eat fingers, I would stay with the bridge type guard most industrial machines use them becuase the are considered to be the safest
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14th November 2006, 11:39 AM #14
don't you just love machinery like that? bliss. even blissier that you are going to use it and not stick it in a museum.
It might be useful to check out the local history buffs at Rochdale as they frequently have machinery nuts or historians.
Tom
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http://www.rochdale.gov.uk/docs/ebooks/RR/ch6.pdf
http://www.google.com/search?num=100...ochdale.gov.uk
The mile long url above comes from an internal search of Rochdale's site - Google are everywhere, more places than Microsoft ever where. I wonder why folks aren't up in arms about that?Last edited by tashammer; 14th November 2006 at 11:48 AM. Reason: added more info
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14th November 2006, 02:22 PM #15
You are going to have fun doing that old baby up!
BTW Mick is on to it - I have an old jointer with the same 'post and cantilever guard'. It would only be used when thicknessing as you cannot see with it in position as shown - bloody dangerous. From the pic the counterweight simply slots into the yoke at the bottom of the post - to remove one would undo the clamp screw and lift the assembly out, place it on a handy shelf.....and never put it back on, to lose it forever! I'm sure you coud fabricate another easy enough, and even maybe make a sprung swing-away job instead, like the flash new ones.
PS hope you have a wicked dusty........
DenThe only way to get rid of a [Domino] temptation is to yield to it. Oscar Wilde
.....so go4it people!
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