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28th November 2005, 04:00 PM #1
Kitchen Styles
I was reading a book on the weekend about building traditional kitchen cabinets. It's by Jim Tolpin and when he says 'traditional' he means American Colonial, Shaker and Arts & Crafts. I'm planning to build our kitchen with face frames because I hate edge banding and I kind of like the old fashioned look, which is why I bought this book.
There are a couple of things that intrigue me. The first is, a lot of Shaker designs have these tiny little drawers in rows underneath the larger wall hanging cupboards. What did they put in them? I thought of incorporating some but can't imagine what we'd put in them.
The second is, could you say there was a classic Australian style in traditional cupboards and, if so, what does it look like? I'm after a face framed look with full recess doors and drawers. Any ideas, book recommendations etc?"I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
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There are a couple of things that intrigue me. The first is, a lot of Shaker designs have these tiny little drawers in rows underneath the larger wall hanging cupboards. What did they put in them? quote]
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28th November 2005, 04:20 PM #3
OK, that accounts for two of them, what about the rest?
I was just reading your post in the other thread. So what you're saying is that there isn't really such a thing as an Australian style. I suppose there would be cabinetry associated with different architectural periods but since most of our tradies have been imports, I suppose they would just reflect the mother country."I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
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28th November 2005, 04:29 PM #4.
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28th November 2005, 04:51 PM #5Registered
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Originally Posted by silentC
The TV remote.
Car Keys.
Playboy Mags.
Al
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28th November 2005, 05:04 PM #6
Mother Anne would be shaking in her grave!!
"I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
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Originally Posted by silentC
Al :eek:
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28th November 2005, 08:46 PM #8
Hi Darren, maybe spices?
Cheers
BarryIf it walks like a duck, talks like a duck and looks like a duck then it's a friggin duck.
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28th November 2005, 10:55 PM #9
Hi SilentC - Just a thought - I am thinking of making our kit. doors with a removable panel, so that I can change the look of the kitchen when I want without too much hassle or cost. Ours will have Marri frames (milled from offcuts of the floor joists), and for insert panels some of the options are: black perforated metal, painted panels (folk arty), 12mm T&G in same timber or contrasting Jarrah, pyrography pics on veneer/ply panels; & so on.
I keep a plastic leafed folder of torn out mag. pics of furniture I like. Lots of times you can create a whole kitchen with the same style. Some of the American home mags have some fantastic kitchens in them.
Cheers,
Jill
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28th November 2005, 11:30 PM #10
My observations on an Australian style are simply that built-in kitchens for most didn't eventuate until well after WW2.
Kitchens prior to that time comprised a table, a sink (if you were flash) and a cupboard with maybe a meatsafe on the verandah.
Always painted, although sometimes the table top had been scrubbed clean, more often than not it had a "sanitary" lino top.
The late fifties saw the transition, with framed cupboards, laminex bench tops usually with an extruded moulding in aluminium screwed to the face, and painted cupboard fronts.
Here, with the exception of small pockets of wealth in Sydney and Melbourne, we didn't have the sort of disposable cash that allowed expenditure on flash stuff for utilitarian purposes, neither did we have the time for philosophising about whether our kitchens expressed the correct work ethic/philosophy as did the Shakers, there was too much going on; too many races and footy matches to attend.
Our population generally was just too small and too poor and arrived too late in world history. "We" were still living in slab huts using furniture made of kerosine tins and fruit boxes when the Shakers were at their peak!
As for a new Aus style, well usually the guys promoting that are the ones that get their design magazines airmail!
Cheers,
P
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29th November 2005, 07:00 AM #11Originally Posted by silentCThere was a young boy called Wyatt
Who was awfully quiet
And then one day
He faded away
Because he overused White
Floorsanding in Canberra and Albury.....
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29th November 2005, 08:37 AM #12
I think about the kitchen in my Nanna's house. It was built pre-WWII. There was a big fireplace in one corner which was no longer in use. There was a row of painted cupboards under the window with the single bowl sink and a benchtop electric stove and oven (side by side I think, we are going back 20 years or more). The rest of the furniture in the room was freestanding cupboards, none of which matched.
I never thought about whether this was because she was rich or poor, just thought it was the way it was. I suppose with a husband who died early on and seven kids, there wasn't money for food let alone fancy cupboards to keep it in.
So when people 'restore' these Federation homes and whack in the $30,000 kitchens, they're not really being true to the tradition.
I suppose the other point is that Shaker kitchens probably weren't built-ins either. They would probably have consisted of freestanding cupboards and tables. The ones you see now are 'after the Shaker style', not authentic reproductions of a Shaker kitchen.
So I'm not really expecting someone to say "this is what kitchens looked like in the 20's" more "this is what cabinetry looked like in the 20's". Is there or has there ever been an Australian style, or has it always just been imported?
Barry, on the little drawers I thought of spices but then wouldn't they have been against their beliefs, seeing as they were all about utilitarian things with no frills?
Namtrak, there's not too many of them left (about 300 or so I think). The dumb thing about them was they believed in celibacy, which is a good way to ensure the eventual demise of your society. Maybe Al was right :eek:"I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
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29th November 2005, 09:04 AM #13
The only comment I'd make about frame and panel doors in a kitchen is that they are great dust collectors.
I'm not sure if that's what you want in a kitchen.
Re: The Shaker's mode of living. Yeah, I never got that either. Even married couples lived separately. :confused:
"Hands to work, hearts to god".
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29th November 2005, 09:16 AM #14they are great dust collectors
The other alternative in solid timber doors is the batten door. Not a big fan of the look though."I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
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29th November 2005, 09:28 AM #15Originally Posted by silentC
Got a piccy ?
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