Thread: What machine is this?

Looks like it's a small multi-blade rip saw; it has dust extraction, so definitely not something with fixed blades like a guillotine

I like the small bench planer, I have seen big ones but never one that small.

It's pretty cool, isn't it.

I think the wheels on top are a power feeder, and the machine is a multi-blade rip saw or slitting saw

perhaps we need to ask Stu in Japan, as the process appears to have a caption



I too like the bench top smoother

Originally Posted by Chris Parks

I like the small bench planer, I have seen big ones but never one that small.

Didn't Maranuka or someone like that have a Sydney agent who sold these and a disc bole also.
I have a few Japanese machinery cattle dogs I'll have a look later.
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The thing that amazes me is all the work that goes into making one of these, all the those steps and careful handwork and what do they sell for? They probably get thrown in the bin as soon as there is a hole in the paper.
BTW - great video.

The screens are Kumiko, the paper is easily replaced after they are popped out. I've done it many times.

The glue, interestingly, is rice smashed into a paste. One applies the paper, let's the glue dry and then a mist with a spritzer tightens it right up. It's so amazing.

Ive made and repaired many Kumiko things (Des Kings Kumiko books are amazing) but its long long hard work requiring exquisite accuracy. I was watching the videos to gain a sense of industrial scale production.

Kumiko screens and things https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQJC7IVOVdo by KSK Designs D & M King | Shoji and Kumiko Design | Queensland Australia ::

Originally Posted by ian

I think the wheels on top are a power feeder, and the machine is a multi-blade rip saw or slitting saw perhaps we need to ask Stu in Japan, as the process appears to have a caption

I'm not Stu or in Japan, but the caption says "kumiko hikiwari". A quick bit of Googling along those lines leads me to a few interesting links. And that the subtitle might have been mistranscribed (I get 挽き割り saw-cut, but the subtitle says 引き割り pull-cut, both pronounced "hiki-wari", but I'll defer to any actual Japanese speakers around here).

Here 自動挽割機 組å�割機 日高機械ï¼�ä¸å�¤æœ¨å·¥æ©Ÿæ¢°æƒ…å± ç®¡ç�†ç•ªå�·141ï¼�ä¸å�¤æœ¨å·¥æ©Ÿæ¢°ã�®çŽ‰ç½®æ©Ÿæ¢°å•†ä¼š seems to be an auction site selling one of those saws. Got a spare $5K or so?
Also available is the catalogue page at http://www.tamak.jp/tmk/catalog/1398240920432967.pdf.

This http://http://blog.livedoor.jp/miyos.../22627012.html other page (for a different maker) shows an example of the saw blades.

I'd like to do some kumiko work in the future, but I think I need to be able to dimension my stock more accurately and cut straighter first .

Regards,
Iain

PS: Sorry about that messed up URL, pasting it in and previewing it worked fine, but it doesn't survive the round trip. It seems to go to the right place though.

Originally Posted by woodPixel

The screens are Kumiko, the paper is easily replaced after they are popped out. I've done it many times.

The glue, interestingly, is rice smashed into a paste. One applies the paper, let's the glue dry and then a mist with a spritzer tightens it right up. It's so amazing.

Ive made and repaired many Kumiko things (Des Kings Kumiko books are amazing) but its long long hard work requiring exquisite accuracy. I was watching the videos to gain a sense of industrial scale production.

I too have recently stumbled across Des's work and it is amazing. I can see what he means now when he spoke of computer controlled machinery that has become popular in Japan to do what was is an intricate and time consuming craft.

Originally Posted by nyamo_iaint

I'm not Stu or in Japan, but the caption says "kumiko hikiwari". A quick bit of Googling along those lines leads me to a few interesting links. And that the subtitle might have been mistranscribed (I get 挽き割り saw-cut, but the subtitle says 引き割り pull-cut, both pronounced "hiki-wari", but I'll defer to any actual Japanese speakers around here).

Here 自動挽割機 組å�割機 日高機械ï¼�ä¸å�¤æœ¨å·¥æ©Ÿæ¢°æƒ…å± ç®¡ç�†ç•ªå�·141ï¼�ä¸å�¤æœ¨å·¥æ©Ÿæ¢°ã�®çŽ‰ç½®æ©Ÿæ¢°å•†ä¼š seems to be an auction site selling one of those saws. Got a spare $5K or so?
Also available is the catalogue page at http://www.tamak.jp/tmk/catalog/1398240920432967.pdf.

This http://http://blog.livedoor.jp/miyos.../22627012.html other page (for a different maker) shows an example of the saw blades.

I'd like to do some kumiko work in the future, but I think I need to be able to dimension my stock more accurately and cut straighter first .

Regards,
Iain

PS: Sorry about that messed up URL, pasting it in and previewing it worked fine, but it doesn't survive the round trip. It seems to go to the right place though.

thank you

I followed your link and found this



so the mystery machine looks like a gang saw

thats what I thought it would be. But I slowed down the video and squinted the best I could, and I couldn't see a kerf line between the strips as it came out of the machine. I guess being such small stock timber, the kerf could have been 0.7mm...

I have always referred to them as slitting saws, fairly common there are various types brands a sizes around, back in the days when I was employed at SMS the made up their own using a Woodfast Buzzer and a conventional power feed

We have always referred to them as gang saws. My understanding is that slitting saws are metal machinists tools.

The local pallet factory uses a 4 blade gang saw with about 350mm blades & 70hp motor cutting green pine from FNQ plantations. Never seen one this small though.