machine to make timber pegs and stakes

**Robomanic** · 28th November 2008, 03:20 PM

A couple of Andrews makes sense, but then an Andrews cycle time slows down as he gets hungry, and slows down more to watch Andreas walk past. So when considering an Andrew, consider that the cycle time averaged over the day may be considerably higher than the peak cycle time. Maybe you could pay on a piece rate, to keep the incentive up but electricity is far cheaper than Andrew Power. Electricity is about $0.20/kWhr whereas Andrew Power is about $75/kWhr. Puts the term labour cost in perspective hey?

For repetitive work (and only repetitive work) a machine will always win.

**echnidna** · 28th November 2008, 06:08 PM

Theres an old saying that seems to apply in practise
1 boy = 1 worker
2 boys = 1/2 worker
3 boys = no worker

**funkychicken** · 30th November 2008, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by Robomanic

. Electricity is about $0.20/kWhr whereas Andrew Power is about $75/kWhr. Puts the term labour cost in perspective hey?

$75 an hour????

**Robomanic** · 30th November 2008, 03:22 PM

$75 per kilowatt hr - not $75/hr

Pay about $15/hr wages.
Say the person can put out about 0.2kW of useful energy continuously for an hour (could be more). If they do that for an hour, they have produced Power x time = energy produced (0.2kW x 1hr = 0.2kWhrs)
It will take them 5hrs to produce 1kWhr of energy, so it works out to cost you $75/kWhr.

It is kind of relevant but mostly meant in jest

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**Robomanic** · 30th November 2008, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by echnidna

Theres an old saying that seems to apply in practise
1 boy = 1 worker
2 boys = 1/2 worker
3 boys = no worker

Been on both sides of the whip with that one

**weisyboy** · 30th November 2008, 03:30 PM

i have been thinking about this and have come up with a bit of an idea that would work nicely. it envolves the wood being stationary and 2 saws moving.

i reckon it could be done easily.

**103681** · 30th November 2008, 06:56 PM

weisyboy, if you dont mind can you give me a rough picture or design of your idea this would be greatly appericated.

cheers

matthew

**funkychicken** · 30th November 2008, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by Robomanic

Pay about $15/hr wages.

Lower

**weisyboy** · 30th November 2008, 07:25 PM

i am having trouble drawing whats in my head.

i know what it will look like but it wont go on paper.

**Robomanic** · 30th November 2008, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by funkychicken

Lower

Gees, what's award rate for a junior these days?

**103681** · 30th November 2008, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by weisyboy

i am having trouble drawing whats in my head.

i know what it will look like but it wont go on paper.

would you be interested in making the machine for me or if i was to call you to discuss the machine would this be a problem

**weisyboy** · 30th November 2008, 09:39 PM

you are welcome to call me.

i am no metalworker. i was going to get one made up i will be able to get 2 done.

**funkychicken** · 30th November 2008, 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by Robomanic

Gees, what's award rate for a junior these days?

Well I was getting $9 an hour but I got a pay rise!!!! Now I'm on $10 an hour!!

**Canetoad** · 30th November 2008, 10:46 PM

I know that some people use a tennoner to cut paling tops so surely it would be pretty basic to modify an old wadkin or similar to do the job

**103681** · 1st December 2008, 01:40 PM

do you have a picture of the andrew machine

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