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Thread: Do you mill jarrah in WA?
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4th January 2014, 04:12 AM #1Member
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Do you mill jarrah in WA?
Hi all,
Been looking around for mills in perth but most of them seems too 'busy' to give me some response. After several calls and asking questions.. I gave up on those very well marketed and so called friendly service mills.
Im an owner builder, building my own dining area ATM. I work with lots of timber, please don't rip me off :z
Make it clear, I live in perth, I need some semi dry to green jarrah roof timbers, also needs to be able to get it delivered to perth. Either to depot or my house.
Sizes needed as below:
38 pcs x 3200 x 150 x50
3 pcs x 5500 x 150 x 50
10 x 4500 x 200 x 100
Those 5500 beams has to be minimum of 5500 or greater as they are sitting on 3 huge jarrah trusses.
Please guys.. Help me out and please do give me response too .. I worked with lots of furniture timber but when it comes to structural timber.. I got no where to seek... Please do pm me price list if you can mill those timbers. Thanks!!
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4th January 2014, 07:52 AM #2Banned
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I used too
I used to mill a lot of Jarrah...but that ended a decade ago.
Most of it ended up in furniture tho (Well a lot of joinery as well).
I just can't see anyone being likely or willing to supply structural grade Jarrah these days?
I would think cost would be the killer.
If you had Jarrah trees on a hobby block or something a portable saw miller could easily help you out, I would think.
Structural for a roof should be stress graded and I don't know if a lot of portable millers trained / qualified to stress grade timber you'd cut yourself from your own logs is all.
Likely your local building inspector from the council will want to see some kind of stress grading on the lumber or a certificate saying it's all been graded and meets the relevant Australian Standards as specified in the plans drawings, I would think these days (to cover their own butts).
A LOT of roofs went to merbau and other imported timbers that look a little like jarrah - for costs reasons.
Jarrah logs are so dear these days it doesn't pay to cut them for house lots any more...the timber has to go into high end joinery & furniture to justify buying transporting and milling the wood.
A lot of the mills have computer programs and log end scanners that cut to get maximum recovery from each individual log nowadays - its a condition of their log contracts in many cases.
Few mills that I know of, cut house lots or roof lots out of a truckload of logs because it can be very wasteful of the resource to get 4 x 4 or 5 x 5 verandah posts out of the small diameter regrowth logs supplied to a lot of the mills these days (another reason they are reluctant to cut roof orders etc) coz getting the length required at the size dimension to span the distance is tougher and tougher....out of young small dia regrowth logs that are pretty much all that's available to them from our forests under their contracts.
You really want to cut that stuff from bigger old growth logs & nowadays that stuffs at a premium price for high end joinery and furniture.
Theres so many cost effective alternatives these days - steel trussed roofs are less likely to burn for e.g. and can span any distances.
I didn't think anyone still cut roofs out of green Jarrah these days, don't think I've seen one anywhere for probably the last 20 years...
It was different when mills got any amount of old growth logs at $15 or $18 / M3 they would cut house lots all day and waste terrible amounts of timber - that's how the industry worked, but these days its such an expensive commodity (I was paying $100 - $150/M3 for high grade feature Jarrah saw logs 10- years ago when the contract ran out - nowadays logs like that would HAVE to be costing say $250 0r upwards /M3.... which means that to cut roof timbers out of it - it would be more cost effective to make the roof out of gold figuratively speaking.
Like I said - maybe down the southwest where someone has access to salvage logs on private property.
All the cheap ($20 a M3) dead standing firewood old growth logs out of the forest that you MIGHT get cheap structural grade timber out of are sold en masse under contract to the Barrack Silicon smelter just north of Bunbury there at Kemmerton? & cut into blocks to feed the smelter.
I can't for the life of me see where you'll get this timber at an affordable price unless its from someone with a portable mill...with access to logs on private property and even these guys are tending t9 slab these logs out - and ask crazy $ for the slabs - some of the ones i saw at beyond Tools the other day I wouldn't have cut for firewood...full of defects - cut from old dead standing burnt stags and they had crazy prices on them of $700 - $1500 a slab...
I hope for your sake you prove me wrong & you can find what your after at an affordable price and its all certified stress graded etc.
I'll be amazed if you do.
But I do wish you the very best of British luck with it all the same.
You could TRY someone like this maybe...down Pinjarra way Dannys Timber Supplies - Jarrah | jarrah decking | jarrah posts | jarrah beams but I shudder to even think what the cost might be - its only a couple cubic meters tho so maybe it will work out.
Or this crew?
Jarrah Structural Timber - Auswest Timbers
It is possible that most mills won't get back to you over the Christmas new years period because the timber / building industry traditionally closes down for 4 weeks over Christmas for school holidays (So they won't have any staff on and often no logs in stock anyway (it would cost them to $$$ keep them under sprinklers for 4 weeks for e.g.)
Cheers.
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9th January 2014, 04:22 PM #3Senior Member
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Try SLABnBURL Hardwoods down in Manjimup. Clint and Nikki are a delight to deal with and might be able to do something. They deliver to Perth. They have a website.
Graeme
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9th January 2014, 04:52 PM #4
Try Derek Doak (The Timber Bloke): The Timber Bloke Timber supplies, slabs, burls, furniture grade timber
Regards from Perth
Derek (no relation)Visit www.inthewoodshop.com for tutorials on constructing handtools, handtool reviews, and my trials and tribulations with furniture builds.
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9th January 2014, 05:26 PM #5Banned
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Theres
There's also a bloke in Donnybrook - Timeless Timber.
He's no relation - he started his business (using my old registered business name) after I retired and sold up.
But I met him at the wood show & he seems a nice enough bloke and had some reasonable timber.
Good luck.
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9th January 2014, 09:17 PM #6Skwair2rownd
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Try BobL. Be sure to tell him I sent you!!!
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11th January 2014, 03:31 AM #7
Also ... depending on how much work you wanna do yourself ...
Go to the Harvey auctions of the Forest Products Division. You can buy multiple entire logs very cheaply ... think $500-800 for a dozen powerpole-sized logs.
The wood is green, and you would have to transport it, store it and mill it.
Cheers,
Paul
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