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19th February 2017, 03:36 PM #31New Member
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Say No to Modwood.
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We had a modwood deck put down as part of our renovations about six years ago. The tradesmen installed the product as per the manufacturers instructions and used the Klevaklip system as well. We chose the solid version as the hollow version had already been withdrawn.
Our deck is now badly swollen, splitting and warping - there are no longer any gaps between the boards, so airflow is reduced and patches of mould are growing on the underside, causing purplish patches to appear on the topside.
When we approached Modwood about the problem they said the ten year warranty was void because we 'hadn't installed it properly'. We checked with the installers and they wrote a letter, confirming that they had done the installation as per the instructions current at the time.
Still Modwood wouldn't come to the party. They finally said they would offer us wholesale price on the amount of product needed to replace our entire deck, but freight (from Melbourne to Brisbane) and installation would be at our expense and up to us to organise.
The Modwood rep we were in correspondence with seemed to only deal with customer complaints - indicating there are plenty of them!
So - the only thing you can take for granted as far as the ten year warranty on Modwood's product is that they will wriggle out of any claim.
Rumour has it they will have another version coming out in a year or two, but I still won't ever use Modwood again - and I advise anyone else considering the product to look elsewhere.
I include an excerpt from a woodworking forum regarding these composite products - just FYI:
'Commonly cited issues with composite decking products are scratching and splitting, colour fade and stains, and a high expansion rate. This is due to poorer material compositions like high ratio of softwood sawdust and soft polyethylene. Manufacturers say this was a problem with the earliest generation products and cheap imports, but improvements have been reported and warranties are now offered by suppliers to suit these advances.
Colour fade is still a problem, attributed to UV protection on that exposed cellulose content. Some suppliers have addressed this by using 100 per cent PVC products or plastic coatings over the top of boards which also protects from scratches, stains, mould and slipping.
Generation one products were made from recycled pine saw dust and polyethylene (milk bottles) and this soft plastic and soft wood combination translated into a product that was easily scratched by furniture and the like.
An opposing view supports the environmental characteristics of using a high level of recycled materials, like polyethylene (milk bottles) over PVC, but they are arguably less suitable for most applications.'
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19th February 2017, 05:46 PM #32GOLD MEMBER
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Everyone has to treat a product as they find it, my experience is exactly opposite to yours, down about 15 years and no issues at all.
CHRIS
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20th February 2017, 09:46 AM #33
Mine still looks great. Maybe it is because I installed it myself and I did it more carefully. I cannot imagine building a deck out of timber. It is just crazy.
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27th March 2017, 03:07 PM #34New Member
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Hi Chris,
If your decking has been down for fifteen years, is it the hollow core or solid variety?
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27th March 2017, 03:29 PM #35
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27th March 2017, 05:09 PM #36GOLD MEMBER
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Thanks Dave, mine is hollow and it was some of the first they produced, it was so early they custom cut it in the factory and I had very little waste which was a big plus. The solid stuff must be bloody heavy as the hollow stuff is not light.
CHRIS
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27th March 2017, 07:31 PM #37Intermediate Member
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28th March 2017, 01:23 PM #38GOLD MEMBER
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go hard wood. I chose that over modwood, as i didn't trust it in the harsh Aus sun. 64m2 deck area 400 centres (due to timber shop receipt showing lower grade joist timber than I actually received, so I over compensated. I can have countless people on my deck with no flex. I used CAMO hidden fastening system and put about 4600 screws, on my own, thank god for the back brace. Haven't had an issue in 3yrs. Not to mention the ease of replacing a board in the middle of the deck, which had to do as I didn't see the split.
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28th March 2017, 03:00 PM #39
Anyone considering modwood I would sjare this one observation feom visiting Chris Parkes. His seems to jabe stood the test of time rather well with a mix of sheltered and fully exposed areas. In the sun it gets real hot under foot. Not good if you are barefoot or have kids that might crawl around on it
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28th March 2017, 06:50 PM #40GOLD MEMBER
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Sorry but I have to post these. You just can't beat timber. Oh please also look for the screws.IMG_3452.JPG
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29th March 2017, 09:27 AM #41
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29th March 2017, 03:56 PM #42GOLD MEMBER
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Look forward to it. Seeing as your in Sydney maybe can over a beer.
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29th March 2017, 04:04 PM #43
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30th March 2017, 02:55 AM #44GOLD MEMBER
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Dave, that was a spot on your screen, or a squashed bug on the deck. Cider is fine. as long as you're not from Somerset and need a dash of lime in it.
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30th March 2017, 10:10 AM #45
Rather a slice than a dash. Did live in Somerset Ave once ... does that count.
Now I'm gonna have to zoom in on the pic and check
Brb
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