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18th March 2008, 02:20 PM #1Awaiting Email Confirmation
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Noise reduction
Hi all,
I have had a look around the forum for information about acoustic reduction materials. But as yet haven't found any. I am about to install a cyclone and dust extractor to my garage workshop. I have toyed with the idea of putting the extractor outside the garage and under the house, but as I live in the suburbs I am keen to make sure that it would be close to inaudible from a couple of metres away. I thought about putting the fan mechanism (which is from a 1 hp sherwood Dusty - and probably about to be upgraded to a larger size) in a sound proofed box, but I am unsure as to what is the best material to use for this.
Has anybody done this? Or are you aware of a thread in the forums that I haven't found?
Also I am considering applying the same technique to silencing my compressor......any ideas or advice?
Regards,
Rich.
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18th March 2008, 02:29 PM #21/16"
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tontine is a good sound insulator as is foam sheets, but remember that as soon as you install vents, which you will have to do, the noise will come thru them
Don't force it, use a bigger hammer.
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18th March 2008, 04:20 PM #3.
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If you can find a way to sound proof it inside you might as well put it outside, that way all the fine dust goes outside as well.
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18th March 2008, 04:24 PM #4
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18th March 2008, 04:57 PM #5zelk
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This thread may be of use.
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f200/reducing-dust-extraction-sound-46103
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18th March 2008, 05:01 PM #6
Rich, there is a product called Acoustitherm, or something like that it's an insulation bat and sound buffer
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18th March 2008, 05:32 PM #7
If you are serious then these guys have the products for soundproofing and linings http://www.soundguard.com.au/
May be expensive though. A company I used to work for used quite a lot of this type of product, never had to buy any though!
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18th March 2008, 06:24 PM #8Senior Member
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the venting problem described above is solveable by a baffled vent -
http://www.silenceair.com/site/index.html
great for people who live near major roads too.
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18th March 2008, 09:25 PM #9
Rockwool is an excellent sound absorber.
Sound isolation is much more about design than materials.
Any type of structure intended to contain noise must reduce or remove the mechanical ability of the excited air (noise) from being able to vibrate the air outside the controlled environment. This process is called isolation and is the name of the game. A practical example is a stud wall. In a normal wall you have a top and bottom plate studs between them and noggins where ever you dont want to hang a painting later on. Both sides are then covered in a sheet of plasterboard.
In a wall intended to isolate sound the least you would do is to have plates of at least 90mm but the studs of say 70mm would be offset to one side of the wall or another alternatively. The result is that either skin is only fixed to the studs for its side of the wall meaning that if you vibrate or excite one skin the other one does not move with it.
Add insulation and use 16mm plasterboard and you have some good sound isolation. You can also use multiple skin layers and layers of different thickness sound hates to travel through materials of differing thickness.
There are also special flexible isolation glues for fixing multiple skins to each other.
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18th March 2008, 10:12 PM #10
Try this stuff, I've just used some in my shed to insulate and absorb sound... works a treat. Its a semi rigid blanket, 25mm thick with compressed glass wool(35kg m2)and perforated foil on one side.
Comes in a pack of 10 sheets(1200x2400)about $240, it will cover an area of 28.8m2 per pack you can get it by the roll too, I got it too use in my shed doors, fits up real nice very easy to use its self supporting if you cut it slightly oversize and jam fit it.
If you want to use fatbats as a sound insulation you need to compress it to increase its density and isolate it from the vibrating surface, you could build a heavy MDF box around it and line it with R3.5+ bats then compress it using peg board. This will gain a substantially good anulation of possibly 6db(half as loud)
To sound proof you need to isolate and add weight/density... lead is the best common material known to man, pity we cant use it!....................................................................
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19th March 2008, 08:36 AM #11Awaiting Email Confirmation
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Hi all,
Thanks for the great feedback and product links! It looks like I have something to go on with.
To summarise;
- I should build a box around the fan unit
- multiple thicknesses of materials of variable density
- with a void between which could be lined with a range of sound reduction materials
I like the idea of having the dusty fan (and maybe even the compressor) outside the garage as this will release some space for useful purposes.
Thanks again everybody for your help.
regards,
Rich.
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