Thread: Anyone have an opinion on these?

I just popped into Carbatec to have a squiz firsthand at their saws and I gotta say I wasn't relly impressed with the fences on any of the models. The most expensive of the lot even has a fence that to me wouldn't cut a true straight cut. The fence seems to move more at the measurement end so that you end up with a tapened cut! I'm sorry but for the money they're asking I think he fences and the rest of the unit should be spot on!

Anyhow they have nothing in my price range other than the contractor saw which the guy said isn't much better than the Triton... bit surprised seeing the price and how good carbatec products are supossed to be.

I'm starting to wonder if I should get something like the Makita MLT100..

Can I get some opinions on this one please.

https://www.machineryhouse.com.au/Pr...stockCode=W452

Has an induction 3hp motor and quite good cutting depth 90 degree and 45.

Originally Posted by garfield

Can I get some opinions on this one please.

https://www.machineryhouse.com.au/Pr...stockCode=W452

Has an induction 3hp motor and quite good cutting depth 90 degree and 45.

That looks identical to the one I have.
See my comments above.

Originally Posted by NCArcher

Still a bit low on price for those specs I think unless you go second hand.
I was in the same position as you a little while ago. Had a T Mk3 and then a T2000 but was getting frustrated with the usual issues. I got the opportunity to purchase a decent saw so did a lot of research. My requirements were very similar to yours and this is what I ended up with
Gary Pye Woodturning :: Gary Pye Woodturning - GPW 10/12" Table Saw
Very happy with it. Plenty of power and plugs into a standard outlet, riving knife, accepts a dado blade, can use either a 10" or 12" blade (although i've only used a 10"), excellent fence and good solid construction.
The hardwood bench I recently finished gave it a good workout with some maximum depth hardwood rips and it performed beautifully. I have no complaints and highly recommend the saw. As Derek said, using this saw I wonder how I ever got anything done with the Triton.
Although it is more expensive than your upper limit, (I paid just under $1400 I think) I would save for a bit longer and aim for this or something similar. You won't be dis-appointed.
I have no affiliation with GPW but I will happily plug his service as it was excellent.
The same saw is available under different names from several places but the price varies as well.

Wwwh has this one as well and I would probably buy this one if I were doing my table saw purchase over again. Looks really good. It's listed at 1600 but I would have thought you could get it cheaper.

Garfield,
Most of the 'T' square fences are on the tapered cut side, I had a Leder a few years ago, exactly the same. It depends on the sliding clamping system on the T. wider is better but must have good slides or it will angle on you. You must also keep the track very clean as saw dust will get between the slide and the fence, even better tapers then )
I had to set the fence every time with a steel rule measuring from the slide tracks. Painfull.
Fitted a chrome pipe slide for the fence guide, much better.
Wallnut

Well I decided to take off from work a little early so I could have a sticky at Hare and Forbes over at Nth Parramatta.

I discovered that the fences on all their machines (even the upwards of 2K+) had fences that didn't clamp straight. I spoke to a guy there and he tells me that they're all like that. He said that the rip feature is only to "close" enough to what you want then you plain them down etc. He said if you want a nice squre cut on any of the saws then you need to do some work - like measure both ends of the blade to make sure it's square... what a let down as I thought by upgrading to a TS that you would have the benefit of not doing extras to make sure it's square!

Anyhow I see that I'm really gonna struggle to get a saw for the price I want if I want certain things I didn't ever take into account. I'd be wanting to make a lot of cross cuts as well as ripping down wide pieces and see that the sliding cross cut is an extra expense. So the machine that I was looking at today and thought would be great to have went from $800ish inc GST to $1500 and that's without even having a price to have a 15AMP plug installed in the shed as that's what they run on

How many of you guys with a TS also own the sliding table extra? and if you don't have it then I would imagine you don't cross cut on your saw..?

Thanks
Geoff

The fence on my table saw is perfectly parallel to the blade and mitre slot. I don't have any problem with it. It's this one as shown on the saw:

TSC-10HB Heavy Duty Cabinet Saw : CARBA-TEC

Locks down nice and tight, and gives a straight cut.

For cross-cutting, I've made a cross-cut sled that slides in the mitre slots. This gives 90 degree cuts. Takes a little while to make the jig and calibrate it, but once it's done, it stays square.

After years of micro-adjusting the Triton, I now don't give this kind of setup any thought at all. I simply set the fence to the width I want, and cut. Works every time for me.

The other bonuses: quieter than the Triton setup, and much better (but not perfect) dust collection.

I know this kind of saw is outside your price parameters, but if you're looking for a significant improvment on what you have, I think this is the kind of saw you'll need.

Cheers,

ajw

whs

Garfield, the saw i mentioned above has an excellent fence. Locks down solid and does not move. Is set up perfectly parallel to the blade/mitre slots. And it plugs into a standard 10 Amp outlet.
Just noticed it has the same fence as the TSC-10HB

How does this cross cut sled work? exactly how do you measure the length etc that you want to cut?

How many TS owners use a sliding table? Do more maybe use the rip on the TS and then just cut the cross cuts on a sliding compound saw?

I guess the thing is even if I wanted to do it that way I'd be up for roughly the same amount after I buy a decent SCS and a stand....

Originally Posted by garfield

Well I decided to take off from work a little early so I could have a sticky at Hare and Forbes over at Nth Parramatta.

I discovered that the fences on all their machines (even the upwards of 2K+) had fences that didn't clamp straight. I spoke to a guy there and he tells me that they're all like that. He said that the rip feature is only to "close" enough to what you want then you plain them down etc. He said if you want a nice squre cut on any of the saws then you need to do some work - like measure both ends of the blade to make sure it's square... what a let down as I thought by upgrading to a TS that you would have the benefit of not doing extras to make sure it's square! .....

Hi Geoff

The guy at H&F is talkling bollocks. If this is the measure of the sales service, then do not expect any better after sales service - they will dismiss complaints out of hand. Avoid this branch.

My tablesaw fence is the same as the Carba-tec noted above. All Biesemeyer/T-square types can be adjusted to align perfectly square once tightened down. Beware - anything that is tapered will lead to kick back, which is potentially life threatening! Get service from someone reliable who will provide appropriate set up instructions and advice.

One last point: all 15 amp motors run perfectly well on 10 amp circuits. Just change the plug. The worst case scenario is that the switch will trip if the circuit is overloaded - just don't use more than one item at the same time on the same plug/circuit.

Regards from Perth

Derek

Originally Posted by garfield

How does this cross cut sled work? exactly how do you measure the length etc that you want to cut?

How many TS owners use a sliding table? Do more maybe use the rip on the TS and then just cut the cross cuts on a sliding compound saw?

I guess the thing is even if I wanted to do it that way I'd be up for roughly the same amount after I buy a decent SCS and a stand....

The wood whisperer has a great video on making a cross cut sled.

http://thewoodwhisperer.com/the-cross-cut-sled/

It's pretty easy to do cross cuts that way

Originally Posted by derekcohen

The guy at H&F is talkling bollocks.

Bollocks x 2

lol... I was told he's the expert!

I might have to throw my Triton and accessories on ebay to sell first to try and build up my buying amount. I really liked the saw set up with the sliding table on it.... made me weak at the knees.

I just finished telling the wife about how much my budget might blow by and she just laughed at me