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    Default Outdoor Sheet Goods Recommendation

    Hi All,

    Can someone recommend the best material to use for outdoor cabinetry? I am looking to build cabinets for my alfresco that will form part of an outdoor kitchen. It will be mainly undercover but will recieve some rain/moisture after medium to heavy rain. I am thinking formply might be an option for the carcasses to keep the cost down maybe?

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    My bookmarks list turned up two candidates:

    https://cowdroy.com.au/media/Wetline...ine_lowres.pdf

    Tricoya | The leader in modified wood timber technology

    These are not cheap products - I checked on the Wetline about 3 years ago, and it was about $200 per sheet back then.

    I was (and still am) aiming to make an outdoor kitchen, hence wanted something that would last.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight Man View Post
    My bookmarks list turned up two candidates:

    https://cowdroy.com.au/media/Wetline...ine_lowres.pdf

    Tricoya | The leader in modified wood timber technology

    These are not cheap products - I checked on the Wetline about 3 years ago, and it was about $200 per sheet back then.

    I was (and still am) aiming to make an outdoor kitchen, hence wanted something that would last.
    Thanks. Yes definitely expensive. Marine ply might be a go too.

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    Place I worked made a couple of fairly elaborate sets from Wetline a number of years ago, unfortunately I don't know how they faired over time, but material was about 3.5 times the cost of HMR melamine MDF at the time.

    Personally I would have my doubts about formply, I know lots swear by it, but like most things these days, it appears that there is good and bad in it, and it's hard to tell until it been out in the weather for a couple of years. Some of the cheap Asian stuff uses glues that break down if exposed for a time, causing the sheets to delaminate just like they were a cheap interior grade ply . The stuff that I saw that did this effectively became a major ant colony, with thousands of ants living in the gaps between laminations, and possibly using the decomposing glue as food and nesting material. Others seem to last fairly well in the weather, but by nature it is a product intended for short term exposure between setting up forms and filling them with concrete.
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    Definitely a few grades of form ply.
    It used to be good for 24 hrs in boiling water from memory.
    Ive used it quite a bit over the years and recently scored a few sheets from the Uni where they were making conc forms for testing.
    Was lightweight cheap stuff, ok for nix but I wouldnt pay for it.
    Used to be Oz made heavy stuff which was bulletproof up to 30mm or so thick.
    I still have a bit of this and keep it for special jobs.
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    I just built a heap of outdoor kitchen stuff with this: https://shop.nover.com.au/content/fi...RE-6pp-WEB.pdf

    brilliant. Just cut it like normal melamine and glue and screw it together.

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    Looks good. How does it go when cutting? Do you get shavings everywhere? I built some stuff using composite decking boards and the stuff went everywhere. It took me ages to clean!

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    Quote Originally Posted by riverbuilder View Post
    I just built a heap of outdoor kitchen stuff with this: https://shop.nover.com.au/content/fi...RE-6pp-WEB.pdf

    brilliant. Just cut it like normal melamine and glue and screw it together.
    Looks good. How does it go when cutting? Do you get shavings everywhere? I built some stuff using composite decking boards and the stuff went everywhere. It took me ages to clean!

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    Quote Originally Posted by riverbuilder View Post
    I just built a heap of outdoor kitchen stuff with this: https://shop.nover.com.au/content/fi...RE-6pp-WEB.pdf

    brilliant. Just cut it like normal melamine and glue and screw it together.
    I was just taking a read of the brochure you linked, and came across this line of fine-print... "Although Corelight is a waterproof panel, we do not recommend or warrant Corelight for external cabinet door applications." O.o

    So, it's OK for the carcase, but not the door?

    I'm puzzled by this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight Man View Post
    I was just taking a read of the brochure you linked, and came across this line of fine-print... "Although Corelight is a waterproof panel, we do not recommend or warrant Corelight for external cabinet door applications." O.o

    So, it's OK for the carcase, but not the door?
    that’s what they say, apparently it can sometimes warp if in full direct sun but the stuff i made for the big house on the river here was in full sun in the mornings for a week or two and it is fine also the off cuts we had leaning up against the glass doors are fine so I don’t know. I made rosewood doors for the cabinets that I’ve just made and painted some of them but the carcasses were done from prolight board and are fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by metester View Post
    Looks good. How does it go when cutting? Do you get shavings everywhere? I built some stuff using composite decking boards and the stuff went everywhere. It took me ages to clean!
    All of mine was cut on the panel saw which has dust collection fitted, so no mess, bit you’re correct about that plastic decking, I went to a job at Bellevue Hill and the young carpenter there was cutting it with drop saw with no vacuum and it took him three days to clean it all off the lady’s windows and flyscreens. All after I told him to get a dust collector going, but apparently it “isn’t his job to clean up”, I think he learned a valuable lesson after the second day.

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