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    Default Outdoor Table - Timber Slab - Voids & Sunlight

    Hi all,
    I'm a newby here, and pretty much to woodwork. I've done a few timber tables in the past, nothing too flash, but they have turned out OK.
    I came across a bloke selling Red Mahogany (apparently - I can't tell, though it is hard, and red!) slabs, and picked one up, approx 2300x850x45mm.
    It has various holes throughout, some shallow (a few mm) and some completely thru. the smaller "holes" are not really holes (as per pics att), but I'd like to fill all holes to create a level surface.
    Surface finish a matt wax type finish ideally, rather than the polyurethane gloss finish - I'd like it to get it's character from scratches etc.
    I have started off with a belt sanding (was rough sawn) down to 100 grade, what grade should I go down to? I've had a read of some threads in this forum, and you guys have a wealth of knowledge.

    A few questions for you pro's:
    Can I fill all holes with diggers Castable Resin, including the small imperfections?
    Will a wax finish hold up on the patio, which gets the morning sun? Will this also hold up to some water (from the occasional blow-in storm)?
    Will castable resin stop/restrain the slab from further cracking (there are a few large cracks at the ends of the slab which i am thinking of filling)?

    Many Thanks

    Lambo.
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    Sanding finish is a personal taste thing, for outside I would suggest 240 is probably ok, but I have used up to 1200.

    Quote Originally Posted by aliceriverlambo View Post
    Can I fill all holes with diggers Castable Resin, including the small imperfections?
    Yes, but ensure cracks in slab underside are sealed with a filler or something as it will run through even the smallest cracks

    Quote Originally Posted by aliceriverlambo View Post
    Will a wax finish hold up on the patio, which gets the morning sun? Will this also hold up to some water (from the occasional blow-in storm)?
    No. You can get satin/flat finishes, like deck finishes, that would better suit your needs.

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    Will castable resin stop/restrain the slab from further cracking (there are a few large cracks at the ends of the slab which i am thinking of filling)?
    No. Casting resin fills the cracks but has very poor adhesion properties. Casting Epoxy would be better for outside applications. For large cracks, I would use cross ties of some sort, timber bow-ties or some other type. I use brass bolts with clear resin as below

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    Forgot to mention, from those photographs, they look more like sap veins than cracks. For outside, you could use Clear Casting Epoxy, or mix in some black pigment looks good. Again seal the underside first, even casting epoxy seeps through those quickly, epoxy mixed into a paste with black concrete colouring or sawdust would do.
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    Thanks Dai Sensei.

    So if I were to:
    • Fill the large voids with the Diggers Castable ( I have a couple of tins from bunnings - I can take them back and buy this - http://aldaxstore.com.au/c/147731/1/...oxy-resin.html or similar?),
    • Sand the whole table to 240 (ish), apply Aquadeck (or similar?),
    • I ran a wire brush over the veins to remove the splinters from sanding - Is there anything else i can/should have done to the veins if not to be filled (or should they be filled with epoxy too?)


    it should hold up relatively well? assuming a re-coat every 12 ish months? I can live with the sap veins not being filled - will add some character I recon! (and not large enough to tipple a glass/stubbie over).....

    Thanks again.....

    Lambo

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    Quote Originally Posted by aliceriverlambo View Post
    Yes I would use the epoxy one

    Quote Originally Posted by aliceriverlambo View Post
    • Sand the whole table to 240 (ish), apply Aquadeck (or similar?),
    Sounds good to me, as long as it is a for outside product

    Quote Originally Posted by aliceriverlambo View Post
    • I ran a wire brush over the veins to remove the splinters from sanding - Is there anything else i can/should have done to the veins if not to be filled (or should they be filled with epoxy too?)
    I would fill them also with the epoxy as the edges can be sharp and little fingers can get jammed or splintered. If you keep it clear they can still be seen.

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    it should hold up relatively well? assuming a re-coat every 12 ish months?
    See how it goes, recoat as necessary
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    Thanks again Dai Sensi

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