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10th March 2009, 09:24 PM #1Intermediate Member
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A pic of the offending table. Can anything be done with it?
Ok so i've been considering what you all said about a table being too hard for a beginner, so I'm trying to come up with another solution for our situation.
The chairs are too high for the table. The table itself isn't too high, but our legs brush against the apron when we sit there and some people haven't been able to push their chair in at all. We can't cross our legs etc...
What I want to know is can part of the apron be removed to allow for more leg room? I don't want to remove the apron but sort of have an arch cut out of each side of the apron iykwim?!?
I'll also need to pay someone to do this for me. So i'll need to find someone in Perth capable of doing this. Recommendations would be appreciated.
Anyway let's see if i can make the pic work
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10th March 2009, 09:42 PM #2Senior Member
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Change the chairs or cut the chair legs, and if that is unaccepatable, it's surgery on the table.
That would mean using a jigsaw to cut the apron (arch). A nice table like that ....what a difficult decision. I would consider chairs.
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10th March 2009, 09:48 PM #3
knock a bit of teh legs of the chair legs.
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10th March 2009, 09:49 PM #4Intermediate Member
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Problem with the chairs is that they're brand new and leather all the way down the legs. And they cost my partner a small fortune so they can't be replaced.
God i've even considered buying a set of table legs from ikea.
So is it possible to cut a chunk out of the apron?
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10th March 2009, 09:51 PM #5
I'm also a "chair leg" feller, but if you Google "standard furniture dimensions" that will give you the nod on which item is the offender.
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10th March 2009, 09:52 PM #6
The apron on that table doesn't appear overly deep. So if the table is a standard height, the problem may be with the chairs.
You have at least 4 possible solutions.
Plan A. Shorten the legs on all the chairs. Not for the faint hearted, and not something I'd recommend you try yourself. Once you make the 1st cut, there is no turning back.
Plan B. Cut a wide sweeping arch in the apron, to give perhaps 20-30mm more leg room. Again, not a job I'd suggest you try alone. Good for someone sitting need the middle of the side, less good if you are stuck at the end.
Plan C. Find some way to increase the height of the table (by adding something to the bottom of the table legs). Hard to judge how difficult it would be without seeing the bottom of the leg, and probably not a good idea if the table is already a standard height. However, you have the advantage of being able to try it out without any cutting or cost. Just put equal sized blocks under each leg and see how it feels. If it feels OK, then talk to someone about a more elegant (and permanent) solution. If the table feels too high, then go back to plan A or B. Or go straight to plan D.
Plan D Sell the tables, the chairs, or both, and start all over again.
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10th March 2009, 09:52 PM #7
Before thinking about cutting the chairs raise the table by the same amount as you think you will be cutting from the chairs .... it will give the same proportions without any damage.
You need to find out if the the chair height is comfortable to the height of the table top, ie is it comfortable to put your elbows on the table or is it too low/high. If the heights are comfortable and its just the apron that gets in the way then it will need to be cut to suit.Now proudly sponsored by Binford Tools. Be sure to check out the Binford 6100 - available now at any good tool retailer.
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10th March 2009, 10:24 PM #8Intermediate Member
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The leather's wrapped around the chair legs all the way down
Ok so i'll see get some wood blocks and see if it works a bit higher and then find someone willing to trim the apron.
It might have to be more than halved though.
It's either fix this table or buy or build a new one. The actual table to go with these chairs is the stratford at freedom and very expensive.
This table is 75cm high and most of the freedom tables are about the 80-90cm mark.
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10th March 2009, 10:28 PM #9Intermediate Member
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Just measured the apron and it's 9cm. Would at least need to cut off half to be comfy.
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10th March 2009, 10:28 PM #10
Masybe some nice castors on the bottom of the table legs would lift it high enough.
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10th March 2009, 10:30 PM #11
i think cutting the apron will make it to weak.
build new chairs?
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10th March 2009, 10:54 PM #12
If the table needs to be extended perhaps make a cut at the existing rebate (just below the apron) and place the extension in here (dowell up and down) as apposed to adding on the bottom of the legs.
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10th March 2009, 11:01 PM #13
This one is dead easy. Just extend the legs of the table (at the lower end of the legs).
(1) Match the existing wood of the legs.
(2) ditto, but add band between the join as a feature to disguise the join.
(3) Add contrasting wood as a feature - in this situation I would use something like ebony or a wood that matches the leather of the chairs.
Regards from Perth
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10th March 2009, 11:39 PM #14
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11th March 2009, 12:06 AM #15
Perth mum
it looks as your table is dimensioned at the bottom end of the height range and the chairs are at the other end.
one of the reference books I have suggests that the minimum distance between the seat of a chair and the table apron should be 6-1/2 inches, about 16.5 cm.
personally I prefer 20 cm or more
to fix:
modifying the aprons would be a major challenge and would, in all probability, ruin the look of the table.
lifting the table by extending the legs with "sabots" (the correct term for "shoes" added at the floor end of a leg) is possible, but from what I can see of the legs it will be very tricky to get an appropriate visual match.
the examples of sabots I've seen were fitted to tapered legs, not curved ones like you have.
ball and claw feet might work, as might antique style castors — it all depends on what other furniture you have
ian
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