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    Bunnings are also listing this.
    https://www.bunnings.com.au/bc-deco-...coply_p0390218
    Not a bad price for a ready made bench top.
    Those were the droids I was looking for.
    https://autoblastgates.com.au

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spyro View Post
    My favourite material for these sort of projects is formply, it's like melamine but with pine plywood inside instead of weetbix. I prefer the plywood, I feel it holds a screw better and I like that nothing sticks to the exterior.
    And if I need to glue something I'm used to setting the router table at 1mm and do a light pass to remove just the lining quickly.

    Now the thing I don't understand is that Bunnings seems to have these seemingly identical boards but the smaller size ones are half the price for the same surface. I have no idea why, I asked them and they didn't have a clue either.

    Full sheet $88
    https://www.bunnings.com.au/carter-h...rmply_p0390072

    Quarter sheet $11
    https://www.bunnings.com.au/carter-h...rmply_p0390167

    Exact same brand, specs and description, only the size differs... any idea why the price difference?
    I asked them maybe it's a small batch, limited offer etc and they said no they've had them at these prices for years. I asked where they're made they said "both China".
    Anyway I actually prefer the smaller size, I'd probably get them to cut the big ones anyway, so for $11 I'm buying them all the time, I literally get 1 or 2 every time I'm in there...
    wow thanks for posting that good to know.

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    Your price differences probably reflect log size and quality, exactly as they do here.
    Big, clear, softwood logs are rare, even where I live. Are you willing to pay for it?
    Those are often saved for surface veneers while the core peels have knots.

    We have lots of really fancy plywoods: apple, walnut, birch, ash and so on but the sheets are narrow.
    There's an industry assumption that you're doing cabinet work so you don't need 48" x 96" sheets.
    Before I die, I want to see a kitchen done in apple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robson Valley View Post
    Your price differences probably reflect log size and quality, exactly as they do here.
    Agree, that was my initial thought as well.

    However if that's the case wouldn't they have given them a different code/rating/description? I don't mind paying more for good stuff, but I hate paying blindly more based on assumptions... sometimes there are price differences for the same thing purely due to various supply chain weirdnesses

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    Quote Originally Posted by albor13 View Post
    Hi lewisc, who is your melbourne supplier?
    https://plyco.com.au/

    They've got a big range as well as a cut to size service.

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    I agree, formply is great for so many uses. I have even used it for shelving, where it is much less likely to creep (deform under load or just under gravity) than MDF. The surface layer is a very thin phenolic resin-impregnated paper film, which is designed to release well from the concrete after curing, resulting in a very smooth, flat finish to the concrete and so the sheets can be reused many times. Bunnings have been selling both the Australian-made product and a lower quality Chinese-made line.

    The Australian manufacturer is Carter Holt Harvey. It's made from radiata pine. The adhesive is phenol-formaldehyde, with ultra-low formaldehyde emissions. It's made to the Australian Standard and quality is assured through the EWPAA quality scheme. The phenolic layer on the CHH product is black, and the product is clearly branded as Formrite. It's made is two stiffnesses - F14 and F17, but Bunnings only stocks the former, which is amply stiff for anything we would use it for. It's made in 12, 17 and 25mm thickness, but Bunnings only stock the 17mm thick version.

    The chinese line is branded Specrite. It's also 17mm thick and supposed to also be F14 stiffness. It's cheaper and the surface film layer is brown, quite appropriately reflecting it's low quality.

    Just one word of caution for formply generally. Even though they use a waterproof adhesive that will not break down when exposed to moisture, the wood veneers themselves have not been preservative-treated, so they can decay or be eaten by termites if left exposed to the weather or the soil for long periods. I wouldn't use it in ground contact, but if using it where it can get wet and stay wet for some time, best to give the cut edges a few flood coats with copper naphthenate before sealing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emkay View Post
    I agree, formply is great for so many uses. I have even used it for shelving, where it is much less likely to creep (deform under load or just under gravity) than MDF. The surface layer is a very thin phenolic resin-impregnated paper film, which is designed to release well from the concrete after curing, resulting in a very smooth, flat finish to the concrete and so the sheets can be reused many times. Bunnings have been selling both the Australian-made product and a lower quality Chinese-made line.

    The Australian manufacturer is Carter Holt Harvey. It's made from radiata pine. The adhesive is phenol-formaldehyde, with ultra-low formaldehyde emissions. It's made to the Australian Standard and quality is assured through the EWPAA quality scheme. The phenolic layer on the CHH product is black, and the product is clearly branded as Formrite. It's made is two stiffnesses - F14 and F17, but Bunnings only stocks the former, which is amply stiff for anything we would use it for. It's made in 12, 17 and 25mm thickness, but Bunnings only stock the 17mm thick version.

    The chinese line is branded Specrite. It's also 17mm thick and supposed to also be F14 stiffness. It's cheaper and the surface film layer is brown, quite appropriately reflecting it's low quality.

    Just one word of caution for formply generally. Even though they use a waterproof adhesive that will not break down when exposed to moisture, the wood veneers themselves have not been preservative-treated, so they can decay or be eaten by termites if left exposed to the weather or the soil for long periods. I wouldn't use it in ground contact, but if using it where it can get wet and stay wet for some time, best to give the cut edges a few flood coats with copper naphthenate before sealing.
    where can one get the 12 and 25mm versions?

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    Can any one answer .i was thinking of using melamine for a project i was going to build cubooards fir an rv motorholme but when i went to bunnings they advised me to use plywood because of the movement melmine will tear .does anyone have ideas on this

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    The advice was good. Most caravan work is done in ply for that very reason. I used to sell both products to the van trade, they went through ply by the ton. Particle board was negligible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spyro View Post
    Now the thing I don't understand is that Bunnings seems to have these seemingly identical boards but the smaller size ones are half the price for the same surface. I have no idea why, I asked them and they didn't have a clue either.

    Full sheet $88
    https://www.bunnings.com.au/carter-h...rmply_p0390072

    Quarter sheet $11
    https://www.bunnings.com.au/carter-h...rmply_p0390167
    looks like the question was asked one too many times... the quarter sheets are no longer listed !

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwertyu View Post
    where can one get the 12 and 25mm versions?
    I think Gunnersens would be best bet for the other thicknesses. https://www.gunnersens.com.au

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