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21st March 2019, 12:21 PM #16GOLD MEMBER
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Famous last words.
I have seen more accidents on spindles than any other piece of machinery. Most of them have been pretty serious. Respect and knowledge helps, but the high risk remains. The only time a spindle is not dangerous is when the power is turned off. And even then you'll probably stub your toe on it.
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21st March 2019, 01:58 PM #17
... and lurching precariously back on topic...
You can also machine them using a jig like a pencil sharpener; https://woodgears.ca/dowel/making.html
In a couple of weeks I’m going to be making one very similar for machining custom sized dowels used for making marking gauges.Nothing succeeds like a budgie without a beak.
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21st March 2019, 02:20 PM #18
No, I'm not wrong. You can be a pain in the place China put his statement.
He must be stuck trying to figure out if he's going to leave it or take it out again ?
There is no "Definite" way of doing anything . There is always at least three ways .
The maker shown has a few different sized legs ranging from small to larger ones fitted to different sized tables. And there are plenty of ways they can be made.
To fit a router bit in a router takes 2 to 3 minutes . Spindle moulders take longer to fit up and have ready to work. You dont rush it without checking every thing two to three times. And you dont quote it for rushing your butt off and put safety second . One slip up is all it takes.
Did your previous boss let you set up and start the moulder without checking it out before starting ?
Your still young, still rushing around doing dangerous crap and telling all who listen how fast you are . Typical young bloke crap ! I reckon giving advice here on spindle moulders is is not far behind giving advice for electrical work .
Cheers . See no Agression
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21st March 2019, 02:50 PM #19rrich Guest
If you don't need tapered sides, then you can make dowel like pieces on a router table with a fence.
Use a round over router bit of the size spindle that you need. Remember this size will be the radius of the spindle.
Start with timber about 2 or 4 inches longer than your needed spindle and about ¼ inch larger than the diameter of the intended spindle.
Install a starting stop and ending stop on the fence. Install the router bit and raise it 1/8" above the table.
Assuming 4 inches longer, route a round over starting 2 inches from the end and ending 2 inches from the end of the timber. You will have to make 4 passes, rotating the timber after each pass. Adjust the cut by moving the fence so that more of the timber is rounded.
A word or two of caution. The ends of the timber left square to provide alignment when cutting. It is doubtful that the bearing on the bit is of use because you're taking away the surface that it is intended ride on.
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21st March 2019, 05:01 PM #20Taking a break
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Correct. The original question was how do pros do it; as a pro, I gave my response based on how we did it, I certainly believe it to be the fastest way to produce any sort of volume.
Did your previous boss let you set up and start the moulder without checking it out before starting ?
Your still young, still rushing around doing dangerous crap and telling all who listen how fast you are . Typical young bloke crap !
Cheers . See no AgressionYou can be a pain in the place China put his statement.
He must be stuck trying to figure out if he's going to leave it or take it out again ?
Play the ball, not the man, personal attacks are aggression. If you want to disagree with an opinion that's your right, but there's no need for all the extra cr@p. If you want to dish it out, remember that it might come back with interest.
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21st March 2019, 05:30 PM #21
The magic of machinery designed to save a finger or two. How many metres needed to make it pay off?
Franklin
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21st March 2019, 05:39 PM #22
Low tech production method...
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21st March 2019, 05:42 PM #23China
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21st March 2019, 05:43 PM #24GOLD MEMBER
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The way I have done this in the past is with a four sided moulder using four precision ground cutters (right, left, top and bottom). It's a royal pain in the butt to setup because the first right head is ~700-800mm away from the last bottom head. If the timber didn't track well through the moulder over this distance, the right profile didn't align with the top or bottom profile. I see the same problem coming from Porta mouldings. If you check the ends of their dowels, you can see/feel the misalignment of the cutters. Having precision cutters taking advantage of axial constants allowed me to get the initial setup "pretty damn close" first go. But pretty close just means steps from the slightly misaligned cutters. I seriously had to made 0.05mm adjustments which then affected the appropriate positioning of another cutterhead. Massive pain in the butt, but once set I could run 600lm/hour easy peasy.
To answer the initial question fairly specifically, I would say he contacted Porta mouldings and asked for a pack of dowels in American white oak.
https://www.porta.com.au/custom-mouldings/
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21st March 2019, 08:12 PM #26China
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How is telling the truth being a bully
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21st March 2019, 08:29 PM #27Taking a break
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21st March 2019, 08:44 PM #28
Not. Really how the pros would do it but I remember Izzy Swan using a jig on a table. Saw to make a heap for handles.
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21st March 2019, 09:34 PM #29
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Aren't you glad you asked?
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