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    Default Quick How-To rundown on 3-Way Miter

    For Zen and Rocker, heres a quick run down on the 3-way miter that is in my Blackheart Sass cabinet in the Pics section.

    In the article/pages i scaned in that thread (thats hard to read) it shows the mortices cut from the side which i did on the original cabinet. In this run down im Domining it, and after a half hour of mucking around to see which is the best method, it was clear with Domi its from the top and not the side.

    The exact same result is obtained if you are going to use Rockers Morticing jig to mortice on the side as in the scanned photoes. But for Steve and Groggy (for when they get theirs) and Riri, Simou and Pats benifit the Domi settings were, 6mm cutter, Depth 28mm, Width 2nd setting (next attempt im going to use the third setting, so it drops the mortice down so i have more room for the propper rebate) 10mm Height (bottom notch) and indexed at 17mm left and right on the plastic index cover.

    First pic shows the 6mm mortices cut in the top (I timed it, not rushing and it was 2min and 25 seconds to do 6 perfect mortices )

    2nd pic shows the miters cut and the three loose tenons in (to lazy to miter them, but i will when i do the next cabinet)

    3rd pic shows two sides dry fitted.

    4th pic shows all three after glue up with the rebate (For Tassiekiwi`s benifit) cut to slip the top in/on.

    And lastly with the top on showing the rebate. This one was cut just to show how it was done and the measurments wernt right, as it should be a 5mm overhang not the super douper wide one as shown.

    Its fairly straight foward if your mortices are accurate and your saw can cut accurate 45 deg.

    Have fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lignum
    Have fun
    Hi Lignum!

    Thanks for that

    When I looked at the second pic the light bulb went off.

    Ok. Am now foregoing food, drink, and loose women to fund the ouchase (aka purchase) of a Domi... Sad, really.

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    Very Impressive - it must at least be the equivalent of an ice skating "tripel axel" !

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    Yer nice joinery Lig

    Can't wait to give this one a try myself............HAndy Post!

    Regards Lou
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    Quote Originally Posted by Auld Bassoon
    Ok. Am now foregoing food, drink, and loose women to fund the ouchase (aka purchase) of a Domi... Sad, really.
    The foods not a problem, but giving up bad drink and loose women is very drastic:eek:

    Quote Originally Posted by BobL
    Very Impressive - it must at least be the equivalent of an ice skating "tripel axel" !
    Speaking of bad drink, i think my last attempt at a "Tripel Axel" occoured at the same time and the only ice to be seen was in that drink:eek:

    Quote Originally Posted by NewLou
    Yer nice joinery Lig

    Can't wait to give this one a try myself............HAndy Post!

    Regards Lou
    And Lou we all want to see you get stuck into the Rat and show us your three-way

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    Nice work Lig, the domino seems to be getting a good work out, you should ask festool for a promoters fee, it seems to be making quite an impression around here.

    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auld Bassoon
    Hi Lignum!

    Thanks for that

    When I looked at the second pic the light bulb went off.

    Ok. Am now foregoing food, drink, and loose women to fund the ouchase (aka purchase) of a Domi... Sad, really.
    Steve, you could have done that on the woodrat if you hadnt sold it, and continued to support the lifestyles loose women and not have to go on a diet

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    Quote Originally Posted by doug the slug
    Steve, you could have done that on the woodrat if you hadnt sold it, and continued to support the lifestyles loose women and not have to go on a diet
    Doug you could have saved your $$$$ on the woodrat and made Rockers Morticing Jig because it could also be done on that . Also the front and back rail on the cabinet is 1500 long, how would you go morticing in the end of that or a 2mt table rail end on the Woodrat? Is it possible:confused:

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    Lignum,

    Thanks for that. Once I have completed the rolltop desk, which is now almost done, apart from the finishing, I shall definitely have a go at making a 3-way mitred small table. As you say, it should be easy enough to do on my morticing jig. For me, it is easier to cut the mortices from the side, rather than from the top as you have done, since it is hard to get sufficient depth of cut with a spiral upcut bit, if working from the top. I think I will probably use an 8 mm (5/16") cutter.

    Rocker

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    I first tried from the side but when the miter was cut the majority of mortice went with it, so i had no choice from the top. But your jig will be perfect from the side. Looking foward to the hall table

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    Default I have a dreeeeammmm.... and a $1600 question

    To those both domineered and un-converted:

    I have prepared all stock for the bed in the pic, cut curved legs, and am ready to start on the joints. Bearing in mind that on the furniture to-do list is:
    KS bed (in progress)
    2x side tables for same
    sofa table
    entertainment cabinet
    Hall table
    Daughters dressing table
    2x Maloof-style chairs for the ends of the dining table (sides are pews)
    well, I could go on.

    Question; do I go with router/Rocker's jig/tablesaw cut tenons, or...

    Justify $1600 for the big D by spreading the purchase cost over these 8 pieces of funiture, and buy the bastard? What's $200 among friends?

    The bed has 108 M&T joints BTW.
    Slats on the bed ends are 9.5mm - will the 5mm tenons be OK here? Only leaves 2.25mm of timber either side.

    Opinion appreciated.

    Dennis
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    .....so go4it people!

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    Dennis, firstly Domi isnt a bastard Shes a lady And secondly you dont need to know what my answer is And yes Rockers Jig would do the job superbly.

    The one very obvious thing is everything on your list after the wood has been dressed and accuratly cut to size is it just needs to be put together. Thats Domis domain as she wll do it with such speed and accuracy glue/clamp ups are a real pleasure because everythin fits like a glove.

    As i pointed out to Pat and his apprentice in the Domi thread, for the first time i can dry fit a cabinet with no clamps and it stays together just perfect and i can even move it around and it wont wobble. And getting it apart requires some minor force.
    Magic I know others will say they get that with the Rat or M&T furniture, but not with such cronic speed and minimal marking out. Magic

    108 (or 216 for Domino loose tenons) would be a walk in the park and completed well within an hour and all perfectly possitioned. You will save days of work with all those peices, leaving more time to make your next project. The 5mm would be fine. The fit is so good it would be no different to one solid piece once glued up. Remember the Domino tenons dont swell, they are just like standard tennons.

    And after a few days the money wont be an issue and you will be so happy to have it beside you every waking minute when your in the workshop.

    My baby is getting her very own dedicated Dominatrix Bench, with her very own specially padded pigeon hole to rest up in when not being used

    Go for it

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    Ahh Lignum - you're a lost cause!

    Thanks for your explanation of the rebate BTW, and for this reply too.

    The speed thing is important for me. I really enjoy making a nicely fitting M&T, and will still need to do 8 on this bed, BUT I already feel guilty 'stealing' weekend time from the family. To think that I could put the thing together in hours not days (read 'a month of Sundays') would be huge for me. Huge.

    How would I go about accurately morticing around the curved sections of the legs? I have registered the slats to be 10mm from the front of the leg face. This was going to be an issue with Rocker's jig too.
    The only way to get rid of a [Domino] temptation is to yield to it. Oscar Wilde

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lignum
    For Zen and Rocker, heres a quick run down on the 3-way miter that is in my Blackheart Sass cabinet in the Pics section.

    Does the limited amount of long-grain surface offer enough glue strength for a robust joint? As much as your 'traditional' 3-way joint?
    The only way to get rid of a [Domino] temptation is to yield to it. Oscar Wilde

    .....so go4it people!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TassieKiwi
    Does the limited amount of long-grain surface offer enough glue strength for a robust joint? As much as your 'traditional' 3-way joint?
    Not sure i follow:confused:

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