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    Default Rust courtesy of geckos

    Haven't needed to use my jointer for a while but when I did #%*%#%*.

    The geckos in my shed, which appears to be the local ClubMed for geckos, had set up camp under the cover on my fully waxed jointer bed and made a heap of liquid and solid deposits which actually eliminated the trad wax and have, in places, stained and penetrated the cast iron.

    After much scrubbing, sanding with wet and dry, polishing with scotchbrite all done using Inox as a lubricant I have just about returned the cast iron to an acceptable standard. Have also discovered that Brasso and a non scratch Scotchbrite pad under an old non random orbiting sander will produce an almost factory polish to the cast iron.

    My issue now is, what do I coat the surface with. Trying to think a little outside of the box and trying not to reinvent the wheel I need to defeat the little mongrels as I can't seem to eliminate them. My thought, at the moment, is to use Flood's Penetrol as a cast iron sealer and to then add trad wax to the surface should the Penetrol not be slippery enough.

    Anyone tried this?

    Any thoughts / comments appreciated.
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    Bob

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    Put some sheets of plywood or MDF on the tables after applying a suitable preservative, that way they can't get to the CI surface itself.
    CHRIS

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    Simple solution .....Move to Victoria we don't allow Gechos (or cane toads, or death adders, or iiricangi, or blue bottles, or pumpkin scones) down here.

    Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahlee View Post
    Simple solution .....Move to Victoria we don't allow Gechos (or cane toads, or death adders, or iiricangi, or blue bottles, or pumpkin scones) down here.

    Rob
    I'm sure there would certainly be room enough as, according the the number plates, at least half of Victoria is up here enjoying our weather and hospitality.
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    Bob

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    Just an update.

    Finally, after many hours the jointer is finished and all put back together. The cast iron surfaces are actually cleaner and smoother than when it was bought.

    As there have been no positive or negative remarks re using Penetrol and due to the large effort required to remove it should it not work I decided to go with what I have done in the past, ie, Traditional Wax.

    The Penetrol idea has not been abandoned but will be tried on the smaller deck of my 300mm sander as it will be an easier fix should it not work.

    Chris, I agree with what you said re a timber plate over the bed to eliminate the geckos getting in but have tried similar in the past on my table saw and had sweating issues between the surfaces. I do think it would work well if I could get hold of a very thin version of form ply which has coated surfaces to eliminate any sweating between the surfaces. High humidity can be a problem where I live.
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    Bob

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    To eliminate the sweating place an oiled rag between the timber plates and the CI surface. I would put the rags on dry, oil them and then put the plates on.
    CHRIS

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    I suggest covering the freshly waxed surfaces with stretch wrap between uses.

    My own wildlife problem is caused by mud wasps.

    mick

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glider View Post
    I suggest covering the freshly waxed surfaces with stretch wrap between uses.

    My own wildlife problem is caused by mud wasps.

    mick
    I like that, thank you, just had one of those, "why the hell didn't I think of that."
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    Bob

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    Default Try nialic

    G'day Bob,
    I had the same problems for years, I thought wax was the answer but these little b*&%$#ds drove me crazy. Also went with towel covers as well as laminated panels but found all of these methods a PITA. Always taking time to cover/uncover then clean and re-waxing where the geckos got under the edge of the covers etc.

    Until I found Nyalic, now I leave my CI tables uncovered most of the time and any geckos mess just wipes off with no effect. I have also noticed less issues with them as if it is the covers actually attracting them to the tabletops.
    Anyway Nyalic is a protective coating that you can't see or feel and it has no effect on anything you do with the gear. Here is a link to the Aussie distributors site.

    Once applied the coating is very wear resistant and the only caveat is that it is not resistant to petroleum products which is not normally an issue with woodworking. It is expensive but is also now available at a better price in a spray can, where mine was in a tin. The only place I am aware that sells it in Queensland is Reef Marine in Mackay. Other boat dealers who sell McLay boats would also stock it I believe as their boats are all coated with it and I believe they may use it on their painted hulls also.

    Anyway hope this helps. I am more interested in woodworking than constantly cleaning my equipment so I find the cost well worthwhile.
    Cheers, Ian
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    Thanks for that.

    I'll have to look into that. I'm not too far from Hervey Bay which has a reasonable sized marina.
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    Bob

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    I use CRC 3-36 and then coat with wax.

    I have heard that a spray bottle filled with Detol really annoys the little buggers

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    You could also try napthalene balls under equipment covers to try and deter creepy crawlies. Obviously that comes with its own issues if you have kids or pets.

    I didn't realize geckos weren't a thing in Vic. Time to sell up and find a job down south.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damienol View Post
    I use CRC 3-36 and then coat with wax.

    I have heard that a spray bottle filled with Detol really annoys the little buggers
    Dettol also "love" toads to death.
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    Bob

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    Our geckos appear to treat naphthalene flakes/balls like some sort of Chanel #5. Not had any luck with them.
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    Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkahestic View Post

    I didn't realize geckos weren't a thing in Vic. Time to sell up and find a job down south.
    Hipsters are far more annoying, Vic is the hipster capital.

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