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19th September 2017, 09:36 AM #1GOLD MEMBER
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Old school
Does anyone ever get out the old set square and drawing paper and design things tech drawing style any more? It's been a long time sine I did one in 60/30, does anyone remember the formula (probably a stupid question) for scale eg. A box 30mm high 45 wide and 80 long, when drawing 60/30 you can't just measure along 45 and then 80. When trying to represent that from a point? If anyone understands my jibberish, I'd love to know, if not as they say a picture says a thousand words and I'll post a sketch of what I'm talking about.
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19th September 2017, 10:53 AM #2
I draw all my furniture designs full size on 3mm MDF sheets, and work from this. I also draw up detail sections and work from those. This works on the "story stick" principle.
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19th September 2017, 11:02 AM #3SENIOR MEMBER
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I roughly sketch all my builds in the 30/60 format, never super accurate, though maybe it is time I build a proper design table and invest in a set square etc. I can't remember the formula though and I think I threw out all my design books from high school.
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19th September 2017, 11:04 AM #4
To lay the work piece on the full size drawing is such a good way to be sure everything fits. Detailed scale paper drawings are great because you can't have too much information. I find that a full size drawing of a particular area you are working on quickly answers any queries that arise from a scaled drawing. By drawing it out, the answers come almost immediately, then you have a "backwards" reference for checking purposes or duplicating many parts
Just do it!
Kind regards Rod
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19th September 2017, 01:57 PM #5
Is this what you are after?
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19th September 2017, 06:07 PM #6GOLD MEMBER
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19th September 2017, 06:14 PM #7
Treecycle's link is what you're after, I think. For things that are all right angles, the measurements in the x (horizontal left to right), y(vertical) and z(front to back) directions are the same in isometric as in orthographic projections. Other distances are not the same and do not scale, so it's usual to draw these lines from known points on the sides that are at right angles. Hope that's clear; if not, please ask and I'll try to clarify it.
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20th September 2017, 12:04 PM #8
I still sometimes get out a drawing board and do scale drawings. I did that to submit plans for a covered deck to council. I just stick to front and end elevation and a plan. I have some vague memory of doing projections at school to get a 3D image but find the simple tech drawing has all the info you need. Did a quick google and found this.
3D Drawing using a 30/60 Degree Set Square
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John
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20th September 2017, 01:03 PM #9SENIOR MEMBER
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+1 for full size drawings helps to get a feel for the actual size. And its a great reference point as your working.
cheers....roy
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20th September 2017, 03:17 PM #10
Depends
apart from sketches, I do almost all my drawings using CorelDraw.
The pencil and paper might be electronic, but the technique is the same as I learnt nearly 45 years ago.regards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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20th September 2017, 08:22 PM #11Senior Member
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Yeah I designed an entertainment unit and computer work station on the ole tech drawing board 9 or ten months ago for a customer, and a set of nesting tables for the local primary. Have never been a huge PC person, much prefer old school.
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20th September 2017, 09:50 PM #12
I still have my drawing board from when I was 13 and studying technical drawing; it gets a workout a few times a year. I mostly design stuff using orthographic then do either an isometric (60/30) or oblique (45 degree) projection to give me a 3D view of the finished item.
No great design skills; I usually just decide on a single specific critical dimension then try to arrange everything around it to suit using the Golden Ratio principles where practicalNothing succeeds like a budgie without a beak.
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21st September 2017, 02:33 PM #13GOLD MEMBER
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Yes I still do this because I have been too lazy to learn Sketch Up properly. This from someone who has been in IT for 30 years! Eventually I'll move to Sketch Up.
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[QUOTE=Fumbler;2046677]Does anyone ever get out the old set square and drawing paper and design things tech drawing style any more?
I most certainly do I have made two drawing boards of late one to use with the max size A4 for one to use sitting the lounge of an evening and a larger one for A3 to use at the bench they are great for smaller items,but as stated a full size set out is the way to go sheets of 3mm MDF are great for this (some times many taped together). The advantage of being able to work full size in the set out,is being able to take angle's and length's in total accuracy in relation to each other off the set-out with confidence. It comes as second nature from my trade training as an apprentice in the pattern shop many years ago absolutely every job however large or small started with a full size set-out.
Regards Rod.Rod Gilbert.
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