Thread: My shed accredited shed

G'day Waldo,

I've been searching DC setups and came across this thread. I like the way you have setup your DC and hope you don't mind answering a few questions.

1. Is that 6" or 4" PVC pipe used?
2. How do you connect the flex hose to the PVC pipe?

Cheers

Simon

G'day Simple,

It's 4" PVC and all I've done to connect it to the flex hose is tape it up with duct tape which is fitted within the collar of the PVC.

6" is the better alternative as opposed to 4" gives much better air flow between the machine and the dusty. Using 4" PVC you do have a reduced amount in pressure but it comes down to a cost factor, for me at least anyway.

There's a very good thread in the Metal Work section by Al B and within thatyou'll find a link to a website by Bill Pentz (think I spelt that right?), who if you have time to read it goes throigh the science of air restriction/pipe size etc.

Many others have used 4" PVC and get great results out of their 2hp dusty setup, others have gone for the better alternative of 6". When setting up your dusty you'll end up spending about the same amount of the cost for the dusty on PVC fittings.

There's a tonne of info on this subject in here which you'll find very helpful. One thing to try and avoid is using too much flwx hose, try to minimise it's use as the ribbing in ti restricts the capacity of the suction and air flow rate. Also try and avoid using 90º bends.

Also have a look at my other thread on setting up a 2nd stage on your Dusty, this gives better suction and means you don't have to empty your dusty bag as often as the 44gal drum is acting as a collection for your shavings, dust etc.

http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...ight=2nd+stage

Hope this helps you a bit.

Thanks Waldo,

That info is a lot of help. Though this has now raised more questions.

In saying that 6" PVC is a better alternative, does that mean you have to upgrade to 6" dust ports on the machines?

If not, how do you connect 4" flex hose to 6" PVC?

Cheers

Simon

G'day Simple,

No you don't need to upgrade the ports to 6", what you can do is buy reducers from your local Bunnies or plumbing shop from 4"-6".

If you can however you could always recut a hole say in your tablesaw where the 4" outlet is and install a 6" outlet, see AlB's thread on this:

http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...t=31169&page=6. thread no. 76.

He's put in a huge amount of work into setting up his dusty, much more than the time and professionalism that has gone into mine - well worth a read.

i thought you'd be taller than that....

Thanks Waldo, much appreciated advice. I'm definately interested in the 2nd stage concept. Emptying the DC bag is a pain.

Waldo - great looking shed.

In pix #4 I see that the 4"PVC runs straight under the drill press - have you thought of doing a "Y" take off in PVC up behind the DP so that when doing multiple drilling the dust can all end up in the same place.

Re the connections of PVC to flex pipe check out what I found a while back.
http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...ad.php?t=28127
It makes life great.
Regards and congrats on your certification,
Bob

G'day Bob38S,

Thanks.

No I han't thought of hooking up the d/press, partially because depending what I'm drilling depends on table height and this might/I don't know make it a bit of a pain - but that's not to say I won't look into it sometime down the track.

But, what I am thinking of doing is setting up a Y take off from the PVC running to the d/saw, up and along the ceiling and over to my lathe.

I saw your thread ages ago on the connections and still haven't got around to chasing them up.

Hi Waldo, I like what you have done with your shed. We bought the place we have now ten years ago, & the shed still feels like somebody elses'. I have really done nothing to make it mine, eg, I hate where the light switch is, but I haven't changed it, not enough power points, but haven't put any more in etc... Until yesterday. Yesterday, I started assembling cupboards that will go along 1 wall, about 7200 long. IT WILL BE MINE.

One thing on you Dust plumbing, Is there a reason you did not run it above the tools? You seem to have a powerfull enough Dusty, & from your picture, it appears that you have a 4" pipe right where you might want to have your feet when using the Bandsaw. I am wondering if this could be a safety isssue, but I must say again, it appears that way in the pic, it may not be that way.

Steve

G'day Ticky,

I put the plumbing for the Dusty down on the floor really for the reason that to run it up with the ceiling would've been more cost and I was concerned that maybe it might have also meant loss of performance. But, since then I've found from others that running above gives equal performance.

Yes the PVC does run around the b/saw, but ithe PVC is tucked against the wall and only has about 2m that comes out along the floor to the b/saw. It means I have to step over it, it might be a safety issue, but I knwo it'as there and it was placed so that it doesn't impede me in working on the b'saw.

The other reson that it is this way is because of available room and factoring in building an office in the shed at the time (which I'm doing right now). So all along I've had to think future tence as to where things will go and fit.

Where's all the dirt and sawdust?? There haster be dirt and sawdust!

G'day Eddie,

I did a clean up that day, come over and you'll find leads, a broom, dust, shavings etc. timber, all lying all over the floor.

Never stays clean fot too long. And SWMBO won't sweep it up for me, something about my shed, my mess.

How does a bloke score that "shed accredited shed" thing?? mmmm??? I mean I reckon my shed should be accredited as a shed!! Strewth its 6mtrs x 9mtrs... has tools out its wahzoomy has timber strewn everywhere including in a timber made loft its got sawdust chips and glue polish varnish and other snot everywhere!! ITS A SHED!!! so wheres me accreditation eh??

I mean mine doesnt even have room for the young fellas "go kart" let alone a flamin car! Its not powered its got an extention lead I mean rifenuffsgoodenuf!... I dont have lights I have a string of party lights! rufanready!... Its used for makin stuff of wood I even had to clear a patch of dirt an weeds out one door an pitch a tent for the bloody timber so I had room to make stuff in there!

Its a rufasguts MANS SHED by gar an I demand me accreditation!! :mad: I mean how many other blokes sheds have their own street sign? mmmm??? Yes indeedydoody Wild Dingos RUFFASGUTS Shed has its own road sign indeed it do right as you enter the door its on the upright near "big burtha" (18in Bandysaw to yous non personalizing tools blokes )... "DINGO Rd"

Strewth... maybe I needs to make a bar to earn me accreditation eh? BUT!! where the hell do I fit it? mmm which tool has to buggar of out into the weather if I stick a bar in there? and then Id have to have a fridge in there as well that will mean yet another tool out the gate somewhere :eek:

Waldo ol mate please dont tell me this is another of them east coasters only things!! :mad: gawd that would wreck me day it would

Originally Posted by Waldo

G'day Eddie,

I did a clean up that day, come over and you'll find leads, a broom, dust, shavings etc. timber, all lying all over the floor.

Never stays clean fot too long. And SWMBO won't sweep it up for me, something about my shed, my mess.

Hey Waldo - sorry to bother you again but those leads on the floor are really a no no.
I use a running light and my leads are the same
http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...853#post298853
regards,
Bob