Thread: Shed layout. Good or Bad

Hi DJ

shame you missed out on the bbq

I like the shed layout. the only thing that strikes me is that you may like to consider another bench in the middle of the floor, one that you can move around perhaps. The reason for this is that you've got two benches, but both are against walls.

cheers
Wendy

Dammit I wish I could get a shed like that, 1/2 of mine is full of bits and pieces of wood.

I second the need for more bench space, somewhere in the middle. It's fine having one along a wall but sometimes I need access to a piece from all sides. I generally do this while working on the floor but having access while standing would be good.

Nice one

I agree with ruffly and ivor - I like having a walk-round bench.

One thing I have found is - to take into account the need for 'swing room' if you work with longer lengths of timber, as I sometimes do.

I have found placing my drill press and bandsaw right next to each other is pretty safe, evn though they are both high, because I can wind the drill press table down to get it out of the way of the bandsaw. I first had them both in corners - looked neat, but I couldn't get long lengths to them easily.

And something for you to think about - if you are going to go with a 12" table saw, you are planning on some serious work. You might find you need outfeed, infeed and side feed support! I have! they take up room.

I like the idea of a solid, fold-down outfeed table, with moveable supports for the infeed. And a recent tip in a magazine - use a shop-made roller support placed on your jointer table as side support (for cross-cutting longer lengths). I liked this idea so much, I tried to do it, but my jointer is taller than the table saw, so it didn't work for me.

Thanks for the feedback.

As for having a walk-around bench, I do have some sawhorses that I can setup temporary with a solid timber top. And I know that it is solid too as the sawhorses were made by me out of steel with timber tops on them .

As for infeed and outfeed supports for the tablesaw, I was planning on making some collapsible supports, because I often make bench tops and table tops for orders and I want to try and keep long runs open for these.

I'd put your DC outside & pipe it in - much better for your health!

You might find a free standing bench with access to all sides a distinct advantage.

Lucky man. You have lots of space to play so use it wisely.

No1 definitely a walk-around bench
No2 swap the jointer and thicknesser around and they are too close to each other. You might have trouble dealing with long boards. I know that they will be on wheels but…
No3 get a 2hp dust collector
No4 put the thicknesser on top of Molly

Originally Posted by Wongo

No3 get a 2hp dust collector

Please refer to No 10 on the list

No4 put the thicknesser on top of Molly

As for Molly

I know that you are all saying the a free standing bench is the way to go, but when this same shed was setup at the old place I had a one and I found it a royal pain in the butt and it ended up in a corner and never came out again .

As per Wongo's suggestion I will try the Jointer and Thicknesser both ways and see which one works for me .

where's the heater ?

Originally Posted by rick_rine

where's the heater ?

She's mounted on the wall above the long bench as a reverse cycle aircon

You got problems!!

Okay now Ive got the same sized shed... for now and Ive probably got a few more toys than you but lets start with what youve got... okay it all looks good on paper but just you wait till you move it in and then get new toys an etc etc etc... you are gonna have probs... but Im gonna try to help you out okay? no worries!!

1) you only have one door... you got a problem... with the table saw and long lengths of timber... my cure? I got another door! worked a treat... set one door in the middle of one 9mtr side and the other on the opposing 6mtr side and place the table saw on an angle so the timber went through one door and out the other!

2) the thicknesser... I also have a 15in thicknesser and mate you got the same prob with that as you do with the saw... only one door! see 1 above

3) Why do people persist in putting their lathes smack in the middle of the shed? I mean come on!! think of the chisels flying!! At least with the lathe against a wall the timber or chisel will fly up to the wall and down... or through :eek: ...end of story its got something to stop it! And THAT is important in my view

4) You have the jointer thicknesser dusty and router table all cramped up on one side... you will find that a pain in the ass real quick! I dont care if theyre on wheels or not theyre gonna give you the flyin trots in a rush!... see now youve got swathes of room so move em around someone else mentioned movement room swinging room? RIGHT!!! dont bunch yer toys up together cause when you do and after youve suffered through the flying trots long enough they WONT get used!

5) You need a bit more bench space!! I mean only one long bench and one short one? COMEON MATE!!! Ive got two 4mtr benches a 2mtr bench and a free standing table and IM SCREAMING for more bench space!!

Okay now look mate I did the drawings "to scale" too before the shed was up and even after it as I waited for the boys to get their acts together to move it all in there... and mine all fitted nice and neat too!!... then we put them in... sigh so much for the drawings

Weve now changed the shed around 4 times... and counting... and Im still collecting toys!!... I will admit I have the added burden of having to lay some of my timber in stacks between the tools and Ive also built a bit of a loft above the benches... but thats about to come down over the next day or so as its 1) making the area over the benches too dark and 2) a snake has taken residence up there and I want the buggar out! so down it comes and then Im gonna have the issue of where to put all that timber and all that veneer Ive been collecting... so another problem will arise.. as I have so will you find that these wee problems will arise as you move along collecting toys timber and stuff

But for now the biggest thing I didnt appreciate was ROOM... actual working space walk around move around with lengths of timber room for stands room for sliding table for the table saw room for the SCMS on stand like yours (the stand is tucked up in one corner while the saw resides under one of the benches) but mostly I didnt initially consider room for lengths of timber to be full length on one side of the machine and then full length on the other... just didnt occur to me when I began... soon did!! lucky we put that second door in where we did or Id have been right royally up the creek without a paddle I can tell you

Okay so your saying your getting a second shed... WHAHOOO!!! mate Im gonna help you there too! geez Im in a generous mood tonight!

So what Im gonna do and Id suggest you try something the same if you can... is to place the second shed up hard against one 6mtr side and remove the wall... thats right take the buggar right out fixing each 6mtr side to the other giving you a shed some 6mtrs x 18mtrs... now DOORS!!! make sure you have doors mate so your timber will go in and out the other side without hinderance... also storage of the lengths of timber you will accumulate make a bloody full 9mtr rack along one wall... believe me you will fill it right quick smart then move your tools to a better location in the shed... and Im assuming its gonna be another 6x9 job right?

Easy eh?

But mate for all that youve made a bonzer start OH!! And another thing... make a 3mtr wide carport (or wider) the full length of the shed ie: 9 or 18mtrs long... this will give you one brilliant summer work area! OH!! And one other thing... get yourself a seatainer!! a 20ft would do at a pinch but a 40 is more bedderah! this will be your finishing room and if you section it off can also be your dust unit and compressor area hard wired through to the shed with appropriate piping to the machines... easy as!

Originally Posted by Wild Dingo

1) you only have one door... you got a problem... with the table saw and long lengths of timber... my cure? I got another door! worked a treat... set one door in the middle of one 9mtr side and the other on the opposing 6mtr side and place the table saw on an angle so the timber went through one door and out the other!

2) the thicknesser... I also have a 15in thicknesser and mate you got the same prob with that as you do with the saw... only one door! see 1 above

Get what you're saying. What I have aimed for here, is so that I can cut or machine 3 mt (10') long pieces of timber or edge joint up to 6mt. Lets face it the amount of times I cut stuff longer is not that often. Same for the bandsaw and the drill press

3) Why do people persist in putting their lathes smack in the middle of the shed? I mean come on!! think of the chisels flying!! At least with the lathe against a wall the timber or chisel will fly up to the wall and down... or through :eek: ...end of story its got something to stop it! And THAT is important in my view

Ah ha, this lathe must be away from the wall, so that I can turn outboard and also from behind for some of the hollow turning

5) You need a bit more bench space!! I mean only one long bench and one short one? COMEON MATE!!! Ive got two 4mtr benches a 2mtr bench and a free standing table and IM SCREAMING for more bench space!!

How much bench space does a guy need , I have found that the more benches you get the more cluttered they are, cause ya get to lazy to put things away. I survived with a 2.5 x 1 mt (8'2" x 3'3"for you Shane) bench when I was at the old place and that including all my welding and steel working gear as well

Okay now look mate I did the drawings "to scale" too before the shed was up and even after it as I waited for the boys to get their acts together to move it all in there... and mine all fitted nice and neat too!!... then we put them in... sigh so much for the drawings
Have to start somewhere I suppose

Okay so your saying your getting a second shed... WHAHOOO!!! mate Im gonna help you there too! geez Im in a generous mood tonight!

Already have an old 6 x 3mt shed which will go between this one and the fence which is for timber storage

But mate for all that youve made a bonzer start OH!! And another thing... make a 3mtr wide carport (or wider) the full length of the shed ie: 9 or 18mtrs long... this will give you one brilliant summer work area!

Already on the list, will be putting a roof between this one and the other one which runs along side it which is will give me 4 mt / 13' wide by 7mt / 23' long area

Thanks to all those that have contributed ideas . Have taken them onboard and will keep them in the old grey matter .

Have spent a couple of hours in the empty shed today marking out where everything goes and I think it will work out . Have moved the jointer and thicknesser apart a bit more so they are not so close together.

I reckon Jed needs to be moved closer to Molly as he may get in the way when your using the jointer I have this vision of you building yourself a cyclone soon