south brisbane buisness idea,

**ABC Assembly** · 22nd October 2007, 05:21 PM

Hi my name is Brad,

For the past two weeks I have been thinking about starting my own cabinet building buisness (ABC Assembly).

ABC Assembly would be a company that specialises in the assembley of cabinets for kitckens, bathrooms ect. Working directly with the cabinetmaker We hope to relieve the excess workload that the cabinetmaker has undertaken. By doing this we will be freeing up more time for the client to undergo more work, and in the long run, more profit and spare time for the client.

ABC Assembly will work on a mobile basis conducting our services at the workplace of the cabinetmaker (by prior arrangment). The Work will be charged out as an item by item invoice with a set cost per cabinet charging system. Using our own tools and equiptment to assemble the cabinets there will be minimal stress, as well as maintaining virtually no costs from consumables to the customer.

the prices will vary eg.

$20 overhead, $15 floor cab $40 pantry ect. $2.50 per shelf ect.

an average kitchen will set you back around about $400.00 for the cabinets to be assembled, as well as the doors hung and anything else that you would want (for a price).

no I am not a qualified cabinetmaker, and if I was I would be doing all the work and reaping all the rewards that go along with an install.
I do however have years of experience in woodworking and kitchen manufacturing.

*is this idea feasible?

*do you know of any cabinetmakers who would be interested (is there a market)?

*am I waisting my time?

thankyou for your time

*****any and all feedback would be apreciated*********

thanks again

Brad

**ABC Assembly** · 22nd October 2007, 09:17 PM

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**m2c1Iw** · 22nd October 2007, 09:29 PM

Brad,
You stated you have experience in the business so you are more qualified to answer your question than me. FWIW when our kitchen was installed it was by a full time fitter employed by the makers (largish company) the quality and speed was terrific makes me think he may have been on a commission basis, didn't ask.
This leads me to what I would see as a problem in that the cabinet maker would want to have control of the quality of the final product as their name is at risk. If you can overcome that the other issue is charge out rate seems at bit skinny to me but then at my speed the customer would starve before they got it finished

.
Good luck with it
Mike

**Barry_White** · 22nd October 2007, 09:36 PM

Brad

What you are up against is if QLD is the same as NSW you will need a Minor Trades License for any work that you undertake over $1000. If you haven't got that you may have to get accreditation via TAFE College either proving you can do the work or do a course.

**munruben** · 22nd October 2007, 09:39 PM

Haven't got a clue if it would work or not Brad but good luck

**munruben** · 22nd October 2007, 09:42 PM

Originally Posted by Barry_White

Brad
What you are up against is if QLD is the same as NSW you will need a Minor Trades License for any work that you undertake over $1000. If you haven't got that you may have to get accreditation via TAFE College either proving you can do the work or do a course.

I think its $1100 in qld Barry.

**Colin Howkins** · 22nd October 2007, 10:00 PM

Brad,

I doubt that this idea just materialized out of thin air. You must have some insight to the business to see this opportunity.

I would venture to say that currently cabinet makers are going through a bit of a boom time, and are having trouble meeting customer deadlines. Enter you with your idea.

I'd imagine you would have spoken to a number of cabinet makers who have idicated some merit in the idea.

Will you be working alone?
Will you have staff?
How many cabinet makers are you able to service?
How many cupboars/cabinets do you need to assemble in a week to make a living?
Be very aware of your costs

It's questions like these you have to come to terms with, and find answers that you are comfortable with.

I think the only thing you may have to gaurd against is what do you do when the boom slows down?

Will there be enough depth in your business to get you through the hard times?

Do your research, have faith in yourself to be able to do it, and do it

Regards

Colin Howkins
Graceville Qld

**Barry_White** · 22nd October 2007, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by munruben

I think its $1100 in qld Barry.

John

That's probably a $1000 + GST

**Gra** · 22nd October 2007, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by munruben

Haven't got a clue if it would work or not Brad but good luck

Good luck

**Mick Nash** · 23rd October 2007, 12:50 AM

My advice is to find a mentor.
By the sounds of your idea, you will end up being a contractor making kitchens in someone elses factory. They will pay only wage type rates, May as well be on there books??
No bloke I know wants to partition off factory space for a contractor. What about OH&S ? who is responible for you? (He is).
(do not disregard OH&S as it is somthing that can bring you down)
Id try making boxes for them in your garage at first and sell them as a product.
Again I implore you to find a sucsessful person that you respect and ask them to mentor you in business. I wasted a lot of years in business NOT doing this. You will save yourself a lot of mistakes and hard lessons.
Be prepaired for lots of bills and no money to pay them, Get a rich girlfriend to suport you, Busines cards are about the only money you need to spend on advertising, Dont put your eggs in the one basket, Be ready to change tact, Be upfront about money,
Sell yourself more so than your product, if people like you, they will give YOU work and your workmanship is a pleasant suprise for them.
Good luck
Also Id look at getting skills assesment and see what contractor licence you can come up with.

**funkychicken** · 23rd October 2007, 11:42 PM

Now I'd be interested in that, but you know... Brisbane's an hour away and I don't have any experience in cabinet making

...And Gook Lud!

**Wood Borer** · 23rd October 2007, 11:51 PM

I have heard on very good authority that you can't work in Qld without a contractors licence plus contractors can get into trouble for not ensuring their subcontractors are licenced.

**Burnsy** · 24th October 2007, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by Wood Borer

I have heard on very good authority that you can't work in Qld without a contractors licence plus contractors can get into trouble for not ensuring their subcontractors are licenced.

What is a contractors license? Is that like the Blue Card we have over here? The Blue Card is a safetly based initiative and no-one is allowed to work on a construction site without having one, you get one by doing a one day course.

It is amazing how different the trade licensing and regulations are from state to state. I think we are quite lax here compared to some of the stuff you guys have.

**Barry_White** · 24th October 2007, 12:26 AM

Originally Posted by Burnsy

What is a contractors license? Is that like the Blue Card we have over here? The Blue Card is a safetly based initiative and no-one is allowed to work on a construction site without having one, you get one by doing a one day course.

It is amazing how different the trade licensing and regulations are from state to state. I think we are quite lax here compared to some of the stuff you guys have.

This is how the law stands in NSW. This was a post made having a bitch about the laws.

https://www.woodworkforums.com/showpo...13&postcount=1

**Wood Borer** · 24th October 2007, 12:37 AM

Originally Posted by Burnsy

What is a contractors license? Is that like the Blue Card we have over here? The Blue Card is a safetly based initiative and no-one is allowed to work on a construction site without having one, you get one by doing a one day course.

It is amazing how different the trade licensing and regulations are from state to state. I think we are quite lax here compared to some of the stuff you guys have.

Burnsy,

Personally I have no idea, however Journeyman Mick was looking over my shoulder and told me about it.

As you know, he is from Qld and does a lot of cabinet work up there. Perhaps you may want to ask him when he has some more time. He just went to bed.

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