Thanks Thanks:  0
Likes Likes:  0
Needs Pictures Needs Pictures:  0
Picture(s) thanks Picture(s) thanks:  0
Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 16 to 25 of 25
  1. #16
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Posts
    431

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Rabbit View Post
    First, though, Greg, that is one excellent web site. Thanks for taking the time and for sharing it with us.

    Now, would one of you fellas please 'splain which part of that hip roof framing is a creeper? That's not a term I've run across in conjunction with carpentry in my 6-1/2 decades. Now, I've heard of sleepers (being the same as joists, whether in a ceiling or a floor) but never creepers. And, I can't quite figger it out from the dimensions given for it.

    Again, helluva good job, Greg!

    rabbit
    Creepers run from walls to the sides of hips or from ridge to the sides of valleys. Out on site the latter are usually termed 'valley creepers' so as to distinguish them from hip creepers and in so doing minimise the risk of cutting the plumb cut the wrong way
    Cripples run between valleys and hips.
    The rest are common rafters.
    The jack rafters are the same as common rafters but get given the name 'jack' because of their position in the roof.

    Sleepers here are found under railway tracks or may be used as retaining walls around gardens.

    Now if Blocklayer would be so kind as to tell this chippy what he means by " Birdsmouth seat width" I'll be a happy camper.

    Cheers,

    Mark.
    I wanted to become a brickie but my old man said "No son, learn a trade."

  2. # ADS
    Google Adsense Advertisement
    Join Date
    Always
    Posts
    Many





     
  3. #17
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Kentucky NSW near Tamworth, Australia
    Age
    85
    Posts
    3,737

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by duckman View Post
    Now if Blocklayer would be so kind as to tell this chippy what he means by " Birdsmouth seat width" I'll be a happy camper.

    Cheers,

    Mark.
    I would hazarard a guess that would be the width of the birdsmouth sitting on the top plate of the wall. If you don't know what the birdsmouth is that is the notch in the rafter that sits on the top of the top plate.

    This only applies to a full cut roof because trusses don't have a birdsmouth as such.

  4. #18
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Posts
    431

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Barry_White View Post
    I would hazarard a guess that would be the width of the birdsmouth sitting on the top plate of the wall. If you don't know what the birdsmouth is that is the notch in the rafter that sits on the top of the top plate.

    This only applies to a full cut roof because trusses don't have a birdsmouth as such.
    If that's the case then that's what we carpenters call the foot cut. The vertical cut being the plumb cut. The length or more correctly the depth of the birds mouth is what we're interested in, the length of the foot cut is a function of the pitch and the sectional size of the timber and as such there is no need to calculate it. It is, whatever it finishes up being.
    I wanted to become a brickie but my old man said "No son, learn a trade."

  5. #19
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Kentucky NSW near Tamworth, Australia
    Age
    85
    Posts
    3,737

    Default

    duckman

    You must remember he is a blocklayer but considering that he had done some excellent work with his programs.

    The problem is in the building trade terms of things can change from city to country, state to state as well as from country to country.

    e.g. NSW, Astrigals, some other states they are down pipe straps Nozzles are called pops etc.

  6. #20
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Posts
    431

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Barry_White View Post
    duckman

    You must remember he is a blocklayer but considering that he had done som excellent work with his programs.

    The problem is in the building trade terms of things can change from city to country, state to state as well as from country to country.

    e.g. NSW, Astrigals, some other states they are down pipe straps Nozzles are called pops etc.
    I don't have to remember anything and I don't appreciate your condescending tone.
    Blocklayer has a nice programming exercise going for him but he is reinventing the wheel. If that's how he wants to spend some of his time, good luck to him.



    Have a nice day.
    I wanted to become a brickie but my old man said "No son, learn a trade."

  7. #21
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Kentucky NSW near Tamworth, Australia
    Age
    85
    Posts
    3,737

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by duckman View Post
    I don't have to remember anything and I don't appreciate your condescending tone.
    Blocklayer has a nice programming exercise going for him but he is reinventing the wheel. If that's how he wants to spend some of his time, good luck to him.



    Have a nice day.
    I'm sorry duckman if I touched a raw nerve. I never meant to be condecending if you wanted to take it that way. Like I said trade terms vary and it doesn't make any one right or wrong it is just the way others have learnt them and it was just my way of answering a question you asked and I'm sorry if it upset you so much. But I'm afraid sometimes that's life

  8. #22
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Brisbane
    Age
    53
    Posts
    612

    Default

    Don't worry Barry, ducks always get snappy if you stir 'em up!

    Blocklayer, I took the aptitude test and only got 18 right, how do I improve so I can become a qualified blockie?

  9. #23
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Brisbane
    Posts
    24

    Default

    Just wanted to thank you for this simple and easy to use program

    THANKS

    GMC

  10. #24
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Out in the sticks
    Posts
    4

    Thumbs up

    Great Program. I've used it a lot.

    Very occasionally, in the roof calculator, it seems to make common rafters about 10mm too short. I haven't narrowed down exactly where, though.

  11. #25
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    uk
    Posts
    1

    Default staircase pitch calculator

    ok! not sure if this is any use but will calculate pitch for stairs to finish at floor level rather than butting into the trimmer. it is designed for wood stairs. any comments please forward. Pitch Calculators.

Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •