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23rd April 2018, 05:14 AM #1
Saw storage
As some will know I have just won a set of japanese saws on here, which will be added to my collection of other saws English style. With the English saws there is not a problem in making a till for them. I was just wondering how is the best way to store the japanes saws as some have teeth on both edges.
I want to have both styles in the same cabinet any ideas please and any picture of your storage
This is the set I just won. And I have not yet had time to play with them as I only collected them this morning from the Post Office here in the UK Yes they do have a collection point open on a Sunday all be it from 11:00 to 15:00.
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23rd April 2018, 01:19 PM #2
I would imagine (though I have no first hand experience) that the best way here would be to hang them on a tool wall.
You would ideally find a drill press, and make a neat hole in the back centre of the handle on each (avoid the rope obviously) - from what I can see on your photo, there should be enough room to achieve this?
Then simply install a dowell/rod in your tool wall to suit.
If that doesn't work, you could use a magnetic holder in the same way folks do in some swanky kitchens (something like this, product chosen only for illustration purposes): https://www.kitchenwarehouse.com.au/...egory=11225558
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23rd April 2018, 02:00 PM #3Senior Member
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best thing would be for you to give them to me for long-term storage
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23rd April 2018, 09:57 PM #4
Best way to store them - carefully. They have teeth that bite.
Post Office open on Sunday! Lucky you. In Australia you are doing well if your Post Shop (no longer run by Australia Post) is open on Saturday till Noon. After that you need to wait until Monday morning.
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23rd April 2018, 10:15 PM #5
I don't have any Japanese saws but I store my western saws as shown below. Instead of making a contoured block to go inside the handle a block with curved slot cut in it could be used to house the handle end.
Look forward to see what you come up with.
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Oh, congrats on your win, very envious.Dallas
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24th April 2018, 01:06 AM #6
I have been given a few ideas as I am trying to save on wall space as the workshop is only small just trying to save space. I do need to also make something for my hand plans as I seem to have a collection of those, but may just get rid of some of the doubles.
Nice and tidy Dallas wish room was at a premium to show off all my tools.
Yes I was surprised when the card came through the door saying I could collect on a Sunday I had to collect as the government wanted some import duty all be it the lower rate as they are classed as gifts.
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25th April 2018, 09:55 AM #7
Great to see the lucky winner with the prizes....
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25th April 2018, 04:04 PM #8
This is what I built for some of mine
regards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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25th April 2018, 05:17 PM #9
Like Ian has shown a saw till is the most space efficient way to store saws. I added a shelf under mine to hold a few planes also. Hung on the wall by a French cleat. Also used a French cleat so the small saw shelf can slide along if the collection changes. If they were all face on then you would take up a lot more wall spsce
Regards
John
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25th April 2018, 07:41 PM #10
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25th April 2018, 11:43 PM #11
Dalboy, I hang my Japanese saws on a dowel. Drill a hole through th end of the handle. They are replaceable saws - not precious
Regards from Perth
DerekVisit www.inthewoodshop.com for tutorials on constructing handtools, handtool reviews, and my trials and tribulations with furniture builds.
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26th April 2018, 07:26 AM #12
Thank you Derek. I think I will go with something like Ian's where the japanese saws rest down on the bottom but the blades are held in slots especially if I make a slot wide enough for the blade with the little plastic protectors on. I was having a tidy up after some rough turning bowls and ended up finding a few more saws just need to sort out which will be scrapped as there are some cheap and nasty ones there which were OK for cutting some rough wood I had did not want to use a good saw.
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26th April 2018, 09:31 AM #13
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26th April 2018, 03:56 PM #14
Dalboy
There are probably many solutions to your saw storage problem and all we can do is show our method of wrestling with the problem. Most of us have space issues. My saws are kept in a shipping container, but there is still insufficient room! They are hanging on large dowels or in storage crates, but that is the situation of a collector.
I still have it in my mind to build a really smart sawtill but I am a long way off that despite even buying dedicated tools to make up a tambour (roll top style front.) In fact I have shelved that idea for the moment completely as I realised, too late, that it would restrict my available space for storage.
This is the front of my only display till and please bear in mind it is primarily storage and far from smart being a diabolical contrast to those that people have already posted. All the materials are recycled demolition products and mostly originally second quality to boot:
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And this is the way it has been until this week. Previously I stored some backsaws on the rear wall and you can still see a couple behind the hand saws. This was the method:
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However the simple addition of doors immediately offers up a whole new space option.
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Unfortunately, I didn't check the "flatness" of the scrap ply I used and had not realised it was warped until I installed them . So one door touches the sawtill at the top and the other touches at the bottom! However the whole thing is storage more than display so I am not going to commit hari kari this week .
I made the doors like the lid of a box. I think they are about 50mm deep overall. This allowed me to store some back saws on the LH door:
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and three small mitre saws and one more backsaw on the RH door:
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I made a nonsense with the right hand door. I forgot that the container has a beam over the doorway and the RH door would not open right up. That was a nuisance as with the door open at 90 degs the container was very dark. Natural light is not a forte of a shipping container. So I had to make a modification!
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I made a change to the way the saws were supported compared to previously with a purpose made magnet. I probably could have supported them on the disc of timber as with the open handled saw shown above, but that was fixed on the back wall. This was on a moving door and I wanted to be absolutely sure they would not come loose (even if the door was "energetically" shut when things were not going too well .)
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This is perhaps the closest my sawtill gets to sophistication. Sorry about the pic on it's side. Any pix I shot portrait style turned to landscape once I posted them here. I shot them all again landscape, but I missed the mitre saws. Very annoying. Lucky we don't have a cat or it would be a very sorry creature with an extremely dim view of the human race or at least one specimen .
The largest mitre saws would not fit on the doors both because of their length and also because there wasn't any more room so they remain tucked away on the sides of the sawtill. You can just see them in some of the earlier pix. I took dedicated shots but they were more of the vertical aspect pics that only want to lie down! (Edit: Actually I see that one of these pix has found it's way to the foot of the post as a thumbnail. I find if you turn the monitor 90 degs onto it's edge these pix can be view very satisfactorily )
I nearly forgot. There is a drawer underneath, which was also a retrofit job, for some associated saw paraphenalia. There is also some space beneath the handsaws now that the backsaws no longer reside there. I am sure I will find something to go there and re-create clutter, but for the moment it looks tidy.
I do have one thought on your JP saws if you wished to store them horizontally and without drilling a hole in the handle (my saw collecting persona struggles with any holes drilled in a saw. Ugh!) and it is to get hold of a saddle clamp of a suitable size. I am thinking of the lightweight type used with larger electrical conduit. I would guess a 1 1/2" saddle clamp would go close.
Hope that helps. I am sure whatever you go with it will look so much better than my bodged up affair. Be sure to shows us what you came up with.
Regards
PaulLast edited by Bushmiller; 26th April 2018 at 04:05 PM. Reason: Correcting multiple errors and missing pic!
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26th April 2018, 04:28 PM #15
Paul
don't beat yourself up over looks.
My till is built from fence palings.
Here, Lowes who with Woollies was Masters (remember Masters?) sell 150 x 25 x 1800 cedar fence palings that are dressed on one side. Half an hour or so sorting the stack yielded enough "good enough" boards for my saw till.
The boards were dressed by hand, then edge glued to get enough width. The back is ply. Finish is Tung Oil because I could.regards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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