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    As Ian said, the 32mm system is definitely industry standard.

    Quote Originally Posted by barrysumpter View Post
    The hinges are System 67
    Are you referring to the mounting plates? If so, check out these links that might assist you:
    Throw away your tape measure - Go 32mm system - FineWoodworking
    https://davelers.com/32mm/Basics/157.html

    Here's a link to the Blum catalogue that will help identify the requirements for their hardware. You can download it for easier/quicker reference: Catalogue and technical manual 2016/2017

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    Quote Originally Posted by barrysumpter View Post
    The hinges are System 67.
    grrrrr
    are you sure, I've never heard of System 67
    regards from Alberta, Canada

    ian

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    grrr.
    System 87.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ian View Post
    a bit bloody late to mention it, but the bottom of your cabinet is also a shelf and would benefit from a 30 mm deep stiffening batten placed about 50 mm back from the front edge
    The 50mm screws all around the bottom edges keeps it from sagging.
    Thanks,
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    OK got the final go ahead instructions from the client for the large cabinets.

    Client will not allow me to have the carpet removed.

    Any issues with these Adjustable Plinth Legs?

    https://www.bunnings.com.au/kia-ora-...-pack_p4020374

    Thanks in advance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by barrysumpter View Post
    Client will not allow me to have the carpet removed.
    No worries, Barry.

    I left the carpet in a built in wardrobe 20+ years ago. Now the carpet inside the wardrobe looks better than that in the room.

    Any issues with these Adjustable Plinth Legs?
    https://www.bunnings.com.au/kia-ora-...-pack_p4020374
    I started to use similar (different brand) plastic legs in a kitchen rebuild 7 years ago. During assembly two of the legs broke where the flange screwed onto the bottom of the cupboards. Returned them all as unfit for purpose and the checkout chick commented that they had a lot of returns.

    My house is over 120 years old and the kitchen floor slopes considerably - in 4.6 metres it slopes down 40 mm and then up 20 mm - but the bench tops and the drawers had to be level. I used the age-old trick of building a box plinth, putting it in situ with spirit levels on top and then wedging under it untill the top was perfectly level in all directions. I then drilled a hole through a block of wood, inserted a pencil, and then scribed a line right around the plinth. I then trimmmed the plinth. Because of the slope in my floor, at some points I removed virtually nothing while at others I cut away 40+ mm. A quick smoothing with the plane and the plinth sat flush on the floor, and its top was level in all directions.

    Easier to do than say!


    Cheers

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    Shopped around quite a bit.
    Bunnings was close enough and immediately available.

    Can't say they are solid as.

    But pretty thick vertically.

    I'll keep my receipt.
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    The plinth box martials cost only $15 less.
    Plus all the things you posted about setting up.

    Hopefully I'll save the $15 in time and effort.
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    Wondering if I should add extra support legs to the middle of the the bottoms of 600mm x 1200mm?
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    Quote Originally Posted by barrysumpter View Post
    Wondering if I should add extra support legs to the middle of the the bottoms of 600mm x 1200mm?
    YES

    and perhaps space them at 400 centres
    regards from Alberta, Canada

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    OK ta.

    For plinth leg placements, thinking of allowing 50mm from the side and back edges.
    To allow for wall boards and carpet tack strip.

    And 80 back from the front to allow for 18mm kick board thickness and ~60mm for toes.

    Can I get away with 4 plinth legs for the 800mm x 600mm?
    Or should I have 6 as well to be sure?


    I'm thinking for the large cabinets,
    everything should be mounted on the bottom
    instead of hanging off the sides?

    Darn. Thinking now there might not be enough room to manoeuvre with desk and wall shelves already in place.
    Will have to assemble in situ.
    Thanks,
    Barry G. Sumpter
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    And the last consideration before I start cutting and ordering.

    Is the internal roof access.

    There's a decent sized manhole cover about 600 x 600 in the corner.

    We had thought that since we've only used it once every 10 years,
    we'd just cover it.

    Now thinking, with my luck we'd need access the day after we finished packing every thing in.

    My thought is to NOT screw the 1200 x 600 top on the from the outsides.
    But perhaps battons screwed to the underside of the top only.
    i.e. not screwed to the side from the outside.
    And/or may be screwed to the sides from the insides thru the buttons.

    Where we could unscrew the top from underneath on the insides and
    then lift the top enough to clear the side and slid the top onto the top of the adjacent cabinet.
    Yeah! Thats the Ticket!
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    Barry G. Sumpter
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    unless you are prepared to move the roof access man-hole, don't obstruct it.
    Remember to access the roof space you also need space on the floor for a ladder
    regards from Alberta, Canada

    ian

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    Quote Originally Posted by barrysumpter View Post
    Can I get away with 4 plinth legs for the 800mm x 600mm?
    Or should I have 6 as well to be sure?


    I'm thinking for the large cabinets,
    everything should be mounted on the bottom
    instead of hanging off the sides?

    Darn. Thinking now there might not be enough room to manoeuvre with desk and wall shelves already in place.
    Will have to assemble in situ.
    Barry
    I hope your 800 x 600 is not driven by a desire to minimize the number of cuts you will make to a 2400 x 1200 sheet.

    Better to base the design on more "standard" dimensions, and, if at all possible, keep the spans to 600 or less.
    There are very good reasons that kitchens and the like are modular and assembled the way they are. I suggest you follow those construction cues.
    regards from Alberta, Canada

    ian

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    I think we'll be OK on leaning a ladder as I've often done in the past.


    You might be posting about modularized kitchen flat packs.

    I'm building customised storage cabinets used once or twice a year.

    The AllBoards rep tell me 1000mm before sagging considerations.
    Thanks,
    Barry G. Sumpter
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