Thread: Large Storage Room Cabinets - Suggestions Appreciated

Originally Posted by GraemeCook

Hi Barry

Place the batten about 20 mm back from the front edge and it, and the join, will be far less obvious but just as effective.


Cheers

Graeme

Excellent! Thank you!

Made a spacer to sort out the back pin holes.
Does that qualify as a jig?


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Ready to mount these 16mm x 1200mm x 900mm cabinets to the walls.
I've already got the supports setup and ready.

Is there a standard placement for securing the cabinets to the walls?
i.e. say 50mm down from the top. And 50mm up from the bottom?

Countersunk bugle shaped heads?
or flat washer with no coutersink?

My current plan is to use 50mm 8 gauge screws.
16mm of Melamine Particle Board
10mm of white wall
24mm of pine stud



Studs are ~450mm apart.

2257 1812 1362 912 457
subtract 16 (first right side) from the 457 and 912
Subtract 48 (both rights sides and first left side) from the 1362 and 1812 and 2257

Just realised there is no stud on the right side.
Easy anchor? grrrr
Butter fly anchor? grrrr

I've used the level to check the flat of the walls.
Very close.

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Any suggestions?

I'd be happier if you used 75 or 100 mm screws.
Then you'd have around 50 or 75 mm of screw in the pine stud

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Thanks again, Ian, for the consistent support.
Much appreciated.

The difference between 75 and 50 looks huge when you're comparing the two side by side.
The AllBoards guy said 50 was plenty.

Another reason I went with 50 is,
The renovated bathroom is on the other side of that wall.
I recall the renovators turning the 2x4 studs to 2 instead of 4 to get as much room in the bathroom as possible.
90 x 45?
With floor to ceiling tiles.

was cautions not to push a tile out.

Also, used 3 screws on each stud.

Solid As!

The walls were not perfect.
The ~5-10mm difference over 495mm and 1200mm sure shows up in the shadows.
So I left 30mm on the right for a spacer board.

My laundry has an 80mm spacer.

I think the bubble gauge shows I'm ~3° high in the front.
I was perfect screwing in.
But as soon as I lowered the stands, darn.

Is 3° close enough?

My strength is gone moving that desk upstairs all my by self.
And moving the first cabinet upstairs and lifting it onto the stands alone.
That'll teach me to skip breakfast.

I'll install the second cabinet tomorrow.

Hopefully, I'll find more hints n tips with more research
and hopefully more suggestions will accumulate on what to watch out for installing the second cabinet.

Originally Posted by barrysumpter

Made a spacer to sort out the back pin holes.
Does that qualify as a jig?
.....

I used a piece of peg board as a combined spacer and jig.

Cheers

Graeme

A few Bombay Saphire's (ok 12) later
and I'm back to it.

Couldn't spare the 30mm on the right as I only left about 8mm for the door latch.
So shifted right and really squeezed into the corner.
Surprising how much leverage you can get on the ground instead of standing on two different steps on the step latter.

The daughter likes it so far.

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First of all, to all the cabinet makers out there: Respect!

This is a simple melamine cabinets project.
I got absolutely nothing on the professionals.

Second, many many thanks to all who have contributed to this thread.
Respect! And much appreciated.

This project completion (so far) is more yours than mine.
Thanks for feeding the beast before he looses his mind due to idle hands.

Originally Posted by barrysumpter

First of all, to all the cabinet makers out there: Respect!

The first one is always the most difficult...
Good job mate!

Having the right tools/jigs/spacers on hand also makes a huge difference. These days, most manufactured board cabinetry is cut/router/milled on a CNC so not that much skill is involved in assembly.

Should I be following System 32?

The 32mm System In Cabinet Building

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw0IxsnOPF8

Does not match The Kreg Shelf Pin Jig - i.e. Kreg is NOT 32mm from edge.

"... allows you to set your pin holes 1" (25mm) or 2" (50mm) ..."

Should be able to insert a 18mm spacer to get the 32mm from the 50mm side...

Anyone else but Blum follow System 32?

Originally Posted by barrysumpter

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a bit bloody late to mention it, but the bottom of your cabinet is also a shelf and would benefit from a 30 mm deep stiffening batten placed about 50 mm back from the front edge

Originally Posted by barrysumpter

Should I be following System 32?

The 32mm System In Cabinet Building

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw0IxsnOPF8

Anyone else but Blum follow System 32?

I think you will find that System 32 is the industry standard

Originally Posted by ian

a bit bloody late to mention it, but the bottom of your cabinet is also a shelf and would benefit from a 30 mm deep stiffening batten placed about 50 mm back from the front edge

Doh! LOL! Where there's a will there's a way to mess it up!

Originally Posted by ian

I think you will find that System 32 is the industry standard

The hinges are System 87.
grrrrr